Just one comment...
The risk of death for an FIV cat at a kill shelter is mentioned...
You might want to read the fine print of many many NO KILL
shelters that also PTS FIV, FeLV and even the entire litter because
just one kitten dies of FIP...
Life it self is a risk... What about the risk you give to your kitties
by jumping in your car and drive to the store to get supplies...

catatonya wrote:

Thank you Beth for being much more diplomatic than me.  :)

Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    But the FIV cats have not been given a "death sentence", they have
    been vaccinated for a much reduced risk of a catching FeLV.  They
    are weighing that risk against the risk of death on the streets or
    in a kill shelter.  If anyone believes that that risk is not
    justified they can say so in a much nicer way than calling the
place a "hell hole" and attacking poor Sherry. From my experience, I do believe that some rescues are too set on
    the idea that declaws are neccesary to attract adopters.  Our
    local rescue declaws every kitten it can before offering it for
    adoption.  When I told one of their volunteers that I was looking
for a clawed companion for my clawed one-year old, she looked horrified and actually said "What
    about the furniture?"  A politely worded letter to the director
    telling them that they lost out on an adoption can have more
    impact than jumping into impassioned rhetoric and telling them
    they're in "the dark ages".
Beth On 9/25/07, Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        Allowing mixed "pet" cats to stay together that have already
        been exposed is one thing altogether.
Deliberately exposing already immune compromised fiv+ cats to
        felv+ is giving them a death sentence.

        While she (Not Sherry, the owner)  collects donations
        for this  and tells everyone,
        "We do the best that we can".
Question, as far as declawing, are the adopters even asked or
        is it "just a given"?

        Sounds like the dark ages.
And besides, a cat that is fiv+ is stillvery adoptable, w/an
        education programset in place.

        A cat that is felv+ is much harder.
A cat that is fiv+ and exposed to felv is just about impossible. Susan J. DuBose >^..^<
        www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com <http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/>
        www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org <http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/>
        www.shadowcats.net <http://www.shadowcats.net/>
                                          "As Cleopatra lay in state,
                                           Faithful Bast at her side
        did wait,
                                           Purring welcomes of soft
                                           Ever guarding with
        sharpened claws."
                                                     Trajan Tennent
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Beth Noren <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
            To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
            Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:16 AM
            Subject: Re: Here is the link

Glenda, many of us here mix our vaccinated negatives with
            our positives.  It is a calculated risk that takes into
            account quality of life, as is your decision to allow your
            cats outside.  In my situation, with my neighborhood and
            my street-senseless cats, an outdoor kitty is a risk that
            I won't take.  Your situation may be very different.  I
            guess I am just trying to suggest that we ALL care deeply
            for our cats, and that we be gentler with each other when
            voicing our different opinions.  It does the cats no good
if all of us crazy cat ladies start attacking each other. Sherry has worked so hard, and takes each loss so
            personally, and for that I thank her.
Best wishes, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter. and Will Feral

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