>
>
>
>> Just to elaborate on Dmitri's comments. In addition to the IPA client
>> and server packages that are included in the RHEL6.1 beta channel, there 
>> will be a separate RHEL
>> add-on channel, Enterprise Identity Replication. That add-on channel will 
>> contain ds-replication
>> and the Windows sync packages.
>>
>> If you wish to use IPA during the beta or when it is a tech preview
>> feature of RHEL 6.1 you should request an eval entitlement to the Enterprise 
>> Identity Replication
>> channel from your Red Hat account rep.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kev
>>
> Hi Kevin,
>
>
> I have requested the replication channel as you recommended from our
> account manager.
>
> I am curious to why such an important feature as replication is put in
> it's own channel. I see IPA is trying to compete with Active Directory to 
> service Unix/Linux
> machines, however with Active Directory all features is included in the base 
> package of the
> operating system.
>
> Why does Red Hat put the replication feature of IPA into a seperate
> channel from the operating system?
>
>
> Rgds,
> Siggi
>
>
> ==========
>
>
> Silly question.....they want to make money and lock out the "easy" 
> possibility of you not paying
> them.
>
> There is a very good reason RedHat is nick named the Microsoft of the Linux 
> world......but they
> are all pretty much the same.
>
> You have to go into this with open eyes......this project isnt a real open 
> source project with
> real open source ppl from all walks of life.....its a Red Hat project....that 
> they let you see
> into on their terms, Sun and oracle for instance have done the same 
> thing.....their projects
> splutter along with little OSS community support.
>
> Example, so if you went to say mailman (like I do) that's a real open source 
> product and I can
> get first class support via that....I would think that this will never be a 
> place for open source
> support for IPA it will be "please go to red hat and pay if you want help".
>
> I dont know Ive even seen a single contributor who doesnt have a @redhat.com 
> address, that set
> off warning lights for me......probably why the FDS project still has so many 
> contributors and
> users....
>
> I hadnt noticed this wrinkle as I'm busy building a total virtual copy of 
> prod to run a huge
> proof of concept / pre-prod setup which will take me another week at 
> least....given we dont have
> much money and its going to take me more than 6months to do, paying $ isnt 
> practical/possible and
> we dont know the cost when 6.2 comes out.  So I suspect that if you dont want 
> or cant afford a
> support contract bailing to CENTOS 6.1 or using CENTOS rpms to finish the 
> glue (on RHEL) will be
> the way to go. Given we will be using shibboleth and everyone around us with 
> shibboleth is on
> CENTOS its probably where we will go.....
>
>
> Its not all bad, bear in mind of course an Identity / LDAP product off anyone 
> else eg Oracle will
> cost you mega bucks to buy (think numbers ending in 5 0's), is bloody awful 
> (2 of us spent 6
> weeks trying to make its virtual front end LDAP server even start let alone 
> do anything of use
> and I failed).....and costly to look after (think 1 FTE and a highly paid one 
> to boot).....I
> really wonder if the business case stacks up at all....
>
> regards
>


Hello Steven,

I do not agree with you. You can download the source for IPA at any time for 
using, forking or
creating and supporting your own distribution, that to me is an open source 
project. Doesn't
matter how many of the contributers have or does not have a @redhat address.


Rgds,
Siggi





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