I thought David’s suggestions were funny *and* I completely agree with Vincent. In fact, I’ve been very careful to never criticize other frameworks when extolling the virtues of ZF. After all, we have strong empirical evidence that CakePHP, RoR, Symfony, etc.- even Java and .Net stacks- don’t suck. If they did, few people would use them for new projects as there are plenty of free alternatives. It’s just that every framework seems to have its sweet spots.
Here are some other slogan’s we threw out when we were thinking about the new site: 100% Opinionated Software- *Your* Opinion (Bad wording, but you get the idea. If anyone can capture this in a better 5-10 word slogan please let me know.) Backed by the Biggest Name in PHP Our Components are Optional, Our Quality Isn’t Trade In your Trade Offs Extreme Simplicity (Used from the beginning of the project, but I’m not a big fan. I don’t see simplicity by itself as a good differentiator for ZF; if we’re compared to RoR and clones solely on the dimension of simplicity, we’d lose every time- at least for now.) Enterprise-strength PHP OK, I couldn’t remember all of them so I made up a couple on the spot. But I’m allowed to be creative on this thread, too. :D ,Wil From: Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:46 AM Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fw-general] Simplicity Meets Power and not Simplicity, Meets Power On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:40 PM, David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Wil Sinclair wrote: Please feel free to throw out ideas here. I would like to suggest you try to aggregate all your suggestions in one mail, however, so that we don't create too much non-technical traffic. And, of course, if we were to use a slogan suggested by a member of the community, we'd have to make sure Zend held the copyright and could trademark it if necessary. It Doesn't Suck. (:D) Agile AND Flexible. ...and it doesn't suck. :D "It doesn't suck" implies that other frameworks do suck, and even though one might argue that to be the case ( ;-) ), I think it'd be more appropriate to promote ZF's own benefits. David -- Vincent
