Thank you sir; good summary. (My main machines outside work are a Pismo 768/120 G3 400 10.3.9 and MBP, 2G/160 Dual Core 2.4 10.4.11).
Do you have some way to do Tiger natively on the Pismo G3, or are you using xpf(acto) or something analogous? merlin_ch / Doug L. / aisling On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM, classical <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Don't rush to write off any of those machines, not even the Wallstreet. > Remember, for every opinion there is an equal and opposite criticism: > > All three machines have strengths and weaknesses, and always the > devil is in the detail. > > For example - Pismo and Lombard have built-in USB ports - but they > are hardware-limited to USB 1.1 (12MB.sec). To get USB 2 on those > machines you have to add ports via a PCMCIA card. > > That said, advantages of the Pismo include: 'New World' ROMs with > native support for Tiger, a system bus which is 50% faster than the > Wallstreet, expansion bays which support off-the-shelf DVD burners, > and upgradable to 1GB RAM. > > However, Wallstreet does have capabilities which the later machines > cannot match. > It has better support for legacy hardware, having SCSI and ADB ports. > USB, Firewire and Wireless capabilities are available via PCMCIA > cards. > The expansion bays of the WS are extraordinarily adaptable, with both > left and right bays able to accept any combination of ZIP, floppy, > hard drive, or battery modules. (Hard drive expansion bay kits are > still available from http://store.mcetech.com/.) > > Wallstreets are NOT limited to running OS-X from an 8GB partition. I > am writing this on a Wallstreet running OS-X.4.11 from a 34GB > partition of a 120GB hard drive. > It is connected to various USB, firewire and ethernet devices, all of > which work seamlessly. > The only capability I really miss by comparison with more recent > computers, is full-resolution video capture and playback. (Apple's > core graphics engine is out of the question). > > Having said all that, I think you might find better value in a G4 of some > kind. > The old G3s are fun, but by the time you've maxxed out the RAM, got > new batteries, fitted USB ports and hubs, airport cards, upgraded the > HDDs and expansion bay modules etc. etc... you will have spent more > in time and money than it would cost for a G4 powerbook with all of > it built-in. > > hth.. Alan Dow > > ===================================== > On 2009-10-26 20:40 -0700, wren wrote: > > >Have read all I can on Low End Mac about WallStreet, Lombard and > >Pismo. Then I read ebay's current and closed auctions. > > > >My head is spinning with info. I'd appreciate the perspective of those > >of you who use these laptops. > > > >First. Why am I considering one - and what do I want it to do: > >----------------------------------------------- > >I'm considering the G3 because I'm not certain that I can afford a G4 > >Powerbook. I hope one of the G3's will let me at least scrape meeting > >my needs. > > > >---- > >Need to run OS 10.3.9. (The software I own doesn't run higher than > >this) > >Need to connect to wireless internet services (provided by the > >library) > >---- > >Media needs: > >First Choice: Would be nice if I could plug in my USB flash drive. > >Second Choice: Ability to write cd or dvd. > >Third choice: ability to plug in external cd or dvd writer. > >---- > >Software: > >While I don't need my full photoshop (CS I) installed on this laptop, > >some smaller editing program would be necessary. Just for web sized > >graphics (not high resolution photographs for print). I have the whole > >Adobe Creative Suite CS I - but I am guessing running that is too much > >to ask for the little G3's level 2 cache and RAM restrictions? (Or am > >I wrong?) > > > >I will forgo the ability to open Illustrator, or use In Design on this > >laptop. I can skip that if it is not feasible. > >---- > >Amount of use: > >This is intended to be a laptop I can use for up to 2 hours per day - > >maybe 4 days a week. > > > >---- > >The contenders: > >WALLSTREET: Although they have the lowest price tag of the bunch, I > >think I've read that it could not come close to fulfilling what I > >want. One problem I read about is a restriction on the harddrive - > >8gig max? Should I cross it off the list? > > > >That leaves Lombard and Pismo. It looks like both end up going for > >$125 minimum for a working model. Although, it looks like they'd need > >a new battery often at that price which adds another $100 to the > >equation. Does that sound like the going rates to you, or have I > >misread? > > > >Would Lombard and Pismo fulfill my basic requirements? Could they do > >more - as in, handle a full install of photoshop? > > > >Would sincerely appreciate feedback from those who know more about the > >G3 laptops. I don't want to waste my money only to find out it won't > >work out. If it really won't work, I'll just have to wait to raise > >more cash. > > > >Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). 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