is that responsibility to just sit there and let things go on as they are? There needs to be change of some kind, and this lawsuit will at least make companies aware we exist.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Strunk" <ryan.str...@gmail.com>
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So we have a responsibility not to make it worse.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:18 AM
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this is already confirmed on many people's minds at least according to their

believes anyway, so what difference will it make? We're already depicted in
a negative light due to the disability itself.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
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Nobody really. That's why I don't see this going anywhere. And if the
media gets hold of it, well there's every possibility as I said, that
it'll only confirm in people's minds that we are in fact spoiled,
demanding brats.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <shau...@xtra.co.nz>
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well its the only option but a single person doing this is just foolish.
Now a large group may actually have a better chance.
but who has the cash to really go for it.
At 06:21 a.m. 8/11/2009, you wrote:
That's exactly my point. This might be our only option but I have a very
strong feeling that it's only going to give us even more of a bad
reputation than we already have in some quarters. Our only remaining
option it seems is also the one that could and most likely will be our
downfall.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward"
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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online.


Hi Bryan,
Perhaps, but I don't see any other way to bring the issue to a head.
Many of us, myself included, hope that Sony, Microsoft, Activision,
Capcom, Edos, Nintendo, you name it would create fully accessible video
games. That's not going to happen through talking to them, and national
agencies like NFB, AFB, ACB, etc have no interest in getting involved in

a dispute over game accessibility issues. Weather this case negatively
effects us or not remains to be seen, but we do need a way to bring
these people to the table to at least talk about the issues.
Unfortunately, taking them to court isn't going to make them any more
willing to discuss the issues honestly, and in fact might make them even

more unwilling to do so.

Bryan Peterson wrote:
Even if we win there's every chance it'll just increase the reputation
we already have in some quarters as demanding, spoiled brats. I know
one or two folks like that. Even if we win it could be detremental to
us.


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