I aggree yohandy. asking does not get anyware, well hmmm we can only try as direct as we can may take a bit to find the right info as front desk staff won't know you really need to find key people and ask. suing will probably work but please people in general can we actually sue as a group and not one jo. realy aint gona do much really. At 07:35 a.m. 9/11/2009, you wrote: >is that responsibility to just sit there and let things go on as they are? >There needs to be change of some kind, and this lawsuit will at least make >companies aware we exist. > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Strunk" <ryan.str...@gmail.com> >To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org> >Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:26 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. > > >>So we have a responsibility not to make it worse. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On >>Behalf Of Yohandy >>Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:18 AM >>To: Gamers Discussion list >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. >> >>this is already confirmed on many people's minds at least according to their >> >>believes anyway, so what difference will it make? We're already depicted in >>a negative light due to the disability itself. >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" >><bpeterson2...@cableone.net> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:55 AM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. >> >> >>>Nobody really. That's why I don't see this going anywhere. And if the >>>media gets hold of it, well there's every possibility as I said, that >>>it'll only confirm in people's minds that we are in fact spoiled, >>>demanding brats. >>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>>pizza? >>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <shau...@xtra.co.nz> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:18 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. >>> >>> >>>>well its the only option but a single person doing this is just foolish. >>>>Now a large group may actually have a better chance. >>>>but who has the cash to really go for it. >>>>At 06:21 a.m. 8/11/2009, you wrote: >>>>>That's exactly my point. This might be our only option but I have a very >>>>>strong feeling that it's only going to give us even more of a bad >>>>>reputation than we already have in some quarters. Our only remaining >>>>>option it seems is also the one that could and most likely will be our >>>>>downfall. >>>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>>>>pizza? >>>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" >>>>><thomasward1...@gmail.com> >>>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:05 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Bryan, >>>>>>Perhaps, but I don't see any other way to bring the issue to a head. >>>>>>Many of us, myself included, hope that Sony, Microsoft, Activision, >>>>>>Capcom, Edos, Nintendo, you name it would create fully accessible video >>>>>>games. That's not going to happen through talking to them, and national >>>>>>agencies like NFB, AFB, ACB, etc have no interest in getting involved in >> >>>>>>a dispute over game accessibility issues. Weather this case negatively >>>>>>effects us or not remains to be seen, but we do need a way to bring >>>>>>these people to the table to at least talk about the issues. >>>>>>Unfortunately, taking them to court isn't going to make them any more >>>>>>willing to discuss the issues honestly, and in fact might make them even >> >>>>>>more unwilling to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>>Bryan Peterson wrote: >>>>>>>Even if we win there's every chance it'll just increase the reputation >>>>>>>we already have in some quarters as demanding, spoiled brats. I know >>>>>>>one or two folks like that. 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