There was actually only one Final Fantasy game for the NES, at least as far as the US goes. Final Fantay 2 and 3 were released for the NES but never in the US. What we know of as Final Fantasy 2 and 3 on the Super NES were actually 4 and 6. True we have Final Fantasy II officially available to us now thanks to several Final Fantasy collections, but to my knowledge the true Final Fantasy 3 has never seen a US release except perhaps for the Nintendo DS, and I'm not even entirely certain of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of aaaaggh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Hi,
Well, I did read one of the Xenogears books, plus some of the fan
fiction, and you are right about the story. The back story for
Xenogears is pretty good. However, I've never been able to play the
game as it was too focused on graphics etc and I could never do
anything constructive with it. I guess that is why I'm just  not too
pleased with the game itself, but I do like the story as far as it
goes. I also am a fan of the music and am glad to have the Xenogears
fan collection in mp3.
As for Final Fantasy I remember  playing at least one of them on the
original NES, but never got into it much after that. For some reason
Final Fantasy never got my attention like it did everyone else.
Probably because after I lost my sight console gaming never was the
same for me.

On 5/5/10, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Hi Tom.

I wouldn't dismiss console rpgs quite so seriously. Xenogears story captured my imagination so much when I played through it with a friend I even tried novelizing the thing! it has a distinct world, characters with back story,
and a plot which is actually interesting!

Of course, not all rpgs are that good, ---- indeed I've heard many people
who began with the original ff games complain that rpgs today are too
cinimatic and big budgit affairs with no where near enough plot.

I suppose though it's what you grew up with. I sat through the entirity of ff7, Xenogears and much of ff8 with a friend reading the text, just so that
I could experience the story and world like watching a tv program.

my first actual text rpg, ---- in fact the first time I'd played an rpg
which wasn't run by a human gm, was legend of the green Dragon in 2003,
which was fun at the time simply because I'd not played something like that
before, ---- but I did grow board after a few months.

That being said, I do remember spending almost a solid 36 hours awake in
2004 playing original Sryth, just because it was so fantastic to find a
world like that I could explore.

I suppose for me it's the exploration of a world, it's history and it's
people which is important, and I'm largely indifferent to the medium.
Entombed I stil very much enjoy for the reactive combat, unpredictability
and the chance to physically explore a dungeon space with sounds and
atmosphere, ---- but I'm equally really looking forward to the upcoming
gamebook from Chronicles of Arborell, a Murder of crows.

Then again, the first game which really grabbed my attention was the
graphical game turrican 2 on the amigar at the age of 8, which, ---- though it's essentially a platform shooter not unlike the original Mega Man games
with limited weapons and a basic lives system, had a sense of freedom and
exploration that was staggering, ---- sinse the levels were truly gigantic mazes, where you'd find yourself going in and out of ruined cities or caves,
jumping across waterfalls or suddenly swimming in deep lakes, ---- all in
one level, in all directions, up down, forwards and back, not just trailing along left to right. (the fact that Turrican also had award winning and stil
very fantastic music didn't hurt either).

Equally though, I was read the hobbit by my dad at the age of 4, and was
introduced to Lotr at the age of 6 (I read the silmarillion when I was 10),
so maybe for me that's where my love of exploration comes from, ----
independent of what form it comes in.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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