Hi Philip,

Would you mind sending me some example source code how to do this. I'm
clueless on how to set a low-level key hook, and it might save me time
and frustration researching this if you could just send me some source
code examples of how to do this.

As for the win32 keyboard events I know. They are slow and they suck
in any kind of fast action game so that would definitely not be my
first choice.  Fixing the problem with JFW and DirectInput is
definitely my goal here.

Thanks.

On 11/1/11, Philip Bennefall <phi...@blastbay.com> wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> There is an easy solution to fix this problem. I use it in BGT with no
> difficulties. You want to install a low level keyhook in the process using
> SetWindowsHookEx, and inside the hook callback you simply let all the
> keyboard events through. What happens then is that, since Jaws installs a
> low level keyhook as well, my own takes priority which means that I get
> control before Jaws does, and I can thus make the decision whether the key
> is supposed to be allowed through or not rather than leaving that choice up
> toJaws.
>
> Hope this helps you. And please do not! use the keyboard events from Win32,
> they are sluggish in comparison to Direct X and they have other issues like
> the automatic repeats and lack of certain keys without special work arounds
> etc.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Philip Bennefall
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 3:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games News
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Ah, that's still one of the issues I'm working on. When using Jaws for
> speech output there is a keyboard trapping issue I've not found a good
> way around yet. I did put the JFW demo to sleep and that seemed to
> work, but even though it frees up the keyboard its not as responsive
> as using say NVDA, because I think Jaws still tries to capture or trap
> the keyboard in the background. It is pretty problematic right now. I
> may have to switch over to standard keyboard events rather than using
> DirectX to fix that issue.
>
> However, as for ESpeak and Eloquence I don't think they fit well into
> a game environment, but its whatever works. With newer versions of
> Jaws like Jaws 12 there is plenty of RealSpeak Direct voices like Tom,
> Karen, Jennifer, Daniel, etc so all the user has to do is download and
> install a RealSpeak direct voice, set Jaws up to use that, and the
> game will use the RealSpeak voices instead of Eloquence. So hopefully
> it is things like that which will provide a better solution than just
> ESpeak or Eloquence.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> On 10/31/11, pitermach <piterm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This news article made me curious about something.
>> Have you been able to work around the jaws keyboard trap issue? I guess
>> you understand what I mean. Even then I'm not sure how well you could
>> play a game like MOTA with it running, since it does make the keyboard
>> sort of sluggish in some parts (scraping in a sound editor for instance)
>> Over all though i'm glad things are progressing. Being a NVDA user
>> myself I really like using it as speech output in games. You could argue
>> how Espeak/eloquence fits into a mood of a game, but hey. What ever
>> works for someone just works.
>>
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