Hey thanks for the tips Trouble, great to meet another blind guy into this hobby you're the first I've come across in quite a while. Yes I do try to take the heli off with the tail toward me for a good point of reference but you of course sometimes get rotation one way or the other which will throw you off. These little helis that I have don't have individual trim controls they just have a trim dial below the sticks. I assume if I get something a bit more sophisticated like the Eflight ones I mention they will have more trim controls.
Thanks again. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Trouble wrote: > To help fix that drift. Get the helicopter to hover with tail to you. Then if > it drifts left, give rudder trim on radio a little until it stops. With no > wind conditions you should be able to get a steady hover. If not know where > the trims are on radio. They are right next to the gimbals. > > At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: >> Hey Charles and all. >> >> The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a >> couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner >> has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at >> about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last >> year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically >> a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of >> about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very >> very small. >> >> Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too >> much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our >> female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec >> room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these >> little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type >> of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the >> difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able >> to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think >> quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't >> been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the >> heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much >> turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily >> despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air >> currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount >> with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total >> which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which >> way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is >> drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found >> is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to >> correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. >> >> These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so >> far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because >> you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've >> had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we >> are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably >> affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having >> said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you >> pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima >> helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I >> checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You >> can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just >> about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying >> then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that >> you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There >> are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands >> of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend >> the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the >> less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I >> checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the >> cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's >> it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get >> pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. >> >> In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we >> can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a >> bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC >> hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much >> research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on >> that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be >> happy to talk about it further but we probably oughta do it off list since >> this isn't really gaming. >> >> Game on. >> >> Tom >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: >> >> > Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that any flying craft >> > needs a lot of space. How big are these helicopters?, and how do you >> > navigate without smacking it into walls or ceiling without looking? It >> > sounds like interesting fun! >> > >> > --- >> > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:47 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project >> > >> > >> >> You got some of the principles, but way off on others. >> >> The ailerons on the ends of the wings are what lets the plane turn left >> >> or right. You get this motion by moving the yoke left or right. By >> >> pushing forward or pulling back on the yoke causes the Elevators on the >> >> tail wings to raise or lower the planes level of flight. By giving the >> >> plane more or less power. Gives more or less wind on the wings surface to >> >> assist in these movements. Speed only makes you go faster or slower. >> >> Depending on wait of plane determines how much speed it takes to keep it >> >> in the air. Not all planes have rudders, and those that do move along >> >> with the ailerons. >> >> Anyone that has flown and had time at the stick would of ben told this >> >> info after all its basic flying. You want hard flying try a helicopter. >> >> i have flown just about all types of RC models from airplanes to hover >> >> craft. Now working on helicopters indoor type and out. Ben playing with >> >> these big boy toys for past 30 years and most of it being blind. >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> > [email protected]. >> > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> > please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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