Oh yeah I am definitely a fan of youtube vids on this stuff, that has helped me to pick out most of the stuff I do have. I use them to learn about things like what the craft sounds like to see if I can hear it well for audio flying as I call it.
Regards and game on. Tom On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Trouble wrote: > you should check out youtube.com > They have a lot of reviews and open box showing a lot of this stuff. > > At 02:34 PM 1/5/2012, you wrote: >> Hey thanks for the tips Trouble, great to meet another blind guy into this >> hobby you're the first I've come across in quite a while. Yes I do try to >> take the heli off with the tail toward me for a good point of reference but >> you of course sometimes get rotation one way or the other which will throw >> you off. These little helis that I have don't have individual trim controls >> they just have a trim dial below the sticks. I assume if I get something a >> bit more sophisticated like the Eflight ones I mention they will have more >> trim controls. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Tom >> On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Trouble wrote: >> >> > To help fix that drift. Get the helicopter to hover with tail to you. Then >> > if it drifts left, give rudder trim on radio a little until it stops. With >> > no wind conditions you should be able to get a steady hover. If not know >> > where the trims are on radio. They are right next to the gimbals. >> > >> > At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: >> >> Hey Charles and all. >> >> >> >> The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a >> >> couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my >> >> Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and >> >> weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact >> >> specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters >> >> they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a >> >> rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or >> >> so so they are very very small. >> >> >> >> Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too >> >> much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our >> >> female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our >> >> rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on >> >> these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the >> >> same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly >> >> them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts >> >> and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able >> >> to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if >> >> I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want >> >> to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not >> >> cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do >> >> drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal >> >> gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to >> >> apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this >> >> movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging >> >> because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. >> >> you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or >> >> sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of >> >> direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you >> >> have guessed wrong. >> >> >> >> These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, >> >> so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because >> >> you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've >> >> had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since >> >> we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably >> >> affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having >> >> said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you >> >> pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the >> >> Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last >> >> time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the >> >> world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for >> >> instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want >> >> strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If >> >> you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would >> >> be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you >> >> can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I >> >> don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and >> >> the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the >> >> bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice >> >> thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have >> >> are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight >> >> ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much >> >> any spare parts you need if you do crash one. >> >> >> >> In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that >> >> we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have >> >> a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc >> >> tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not >> >> done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any >> >> info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd >> >> certainly be happy to talk about it further but we probably oughta do it >> >> off list since this isn't really gaming. >> >> >> >> Game on. >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: >> >> >> >> > Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that any flying craft >> >> > needs a lot of space. How big are these helicopters?, and how do you >> >> > navigate without smacking it into walls or ceiling without looking? It >> >> > sounds like interesting fun! >> >> > >> >> > --- >> >> > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <[email protected]> >> >> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:47 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> You got some of the principles, but way off on others. >> >> >> The ailerons on the ends of the wings are what lets the plane turn >> >> >> left or right. You get this motion by moving the yoke left or right. >> >> >> By pushing forward or pulling back on the yoke causes the Elevators on >> >> >> the tail wings to raise or lower the planes level of flight. By giving >> >> >> the plane more or less power. Gives more or less wind on the wings >> >> >> surface to assist in these movements. Speed only makes you go faster >> >> >> or slower. Depending on wait of plane determines how much speed it >> >> >> takes to keep it in the air. Not all planes have rudders, and those >> >> >> that do move along with the ailerons. >> >> >> Anyone that has flown and had time at the stick would of ben told this >> >> >> info after all its basic flying. You want hard flying try a helicopter. >> >> >> i have flown just about all types of RC models from airplanes to hover >> >> >> craft. Now working on helicopters indoor type and out. 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