There could still be since it could still echo up or down from the next
level.
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: "Hayden Presley" <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi,
It would, except that if the staircase is in front of you, there wouldn't be
any echo. But I like the idea.
Best Regards,
Hayden
-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:42 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
That actually makes sense.
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clement Chou" <chou.clem...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having
been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to
a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know
that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi Dark,
Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it
is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity
in audio alone.
For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is
staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would
be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the
walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from
an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase
from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type.
I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt.
Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step
sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of
stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase
and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem
by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds.
While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone
floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing
skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the
developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't
occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you
mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and
replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it
with something equally difficult though.
However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the
unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You
couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get
through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made
up for the bouncing skulls.
Cheers!
On 1/5/12, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Hi Tom.
I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of
some
games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever
reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something
to
maintain the complexity.
for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying
diagonally on
a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just
track
them in sterrio and not verticlly.
Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game
is
not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, ----- for
instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian
ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit
the
ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly.
similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing
skulls,
well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need
to
simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling
intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and!
jumping a
skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the
bouncing skull.
Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply
difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much
information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra
coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when
creating an action game, how to introduce multiple factors the player
needs
to judge into the mix so that the game does not devolve into boppit.
Pipe 2 is a good example of an attempt at this, though even there I
think
more could've been added, for instance more directional hazards similar
to
lectricity on pipe levels which you needed to be aware of.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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