Hi Tom.

This is all true as regards startrek, indeed for the military and politics plot I think babylon 5 can't be beaten.

for instance, in Babylon 5, the relations betwene the main races were not streight forward.

The humans were a major power, but eventually fell into a military dictatorship with the show focusing on the now independent B5 and their relations with other races. The mimbari had their own religious concerns, but also had just come out opf a major war with the humans meaning relations betwene those two races were very strained, while the Sentari were a steadily declining power trying desperately to make alliances and regain lost ground (especially concerning their relations with the Narn). Then behind all of these you have the Vorlons and shaddows playing games and causing or preventing conflict.

this lead to a lot of very complex relations betwene the different powers that just didn't seem to come up in Ds9.

i think Startrek, having setup the Federation as pretty much a perfect utopian society with o classes much less a dictatorship,had rather a lot of trouble intigrating the sort of complex relations betwene different cultures with their history necessary to back up a war plot.

while I did enjoy Ds9, it was primarily for the characters and their interactions than really any interest in the power struggle, where as babylon 5 the two were intimately connected.

Voyager I really liked for the first three seasons, when you did! indeed have new aliens and interesting situations in a totally unknown region of space that challenged the crew out on their own, ---- for example the alliance they had to make against the Kaison directly against federation policy, but one needed by necessity. This was distinctly the thing I always enjoyed in startrek.

It however did seem after series three the plots got a little stale, certain characters such as Kim and Paris stopped evolving, and virtually every situation was solved by a deus x nano machina, ---- ie, 7 of 9's nano probes (which i quite like 7 as a character, I got heartily sick of hereing "we can modify her nano probes to solve this!).

Plot aside though, the voyaging of voyager was fantastic, and something I'd love to see in a startrek game, actual new situations and challnges presented to the player out of the blue.

Btw, this is also why i'm such a major Doctor who fan, sinse the Tardis can go very litterally anywhere! in time or space from Ancient Rome, to prehistory, to the distant future or hundreds of alien worlds. However a doctor who game would be less practical, unless of course it was some sort of text adventure with puzzles that you could get through interlectually, ---- hmmm another gamebook perhaps? :D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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