Hi Dark, Yes, Babylon 5 was a lot better put together than Deep Space 9 because they were not trying to graft a military/war plot onto a Utopian society where exploration had been the Federations main goal. Babylon 5 from the beginning was written and designed to be a much deeper plot from a military and political standpoint, and they pulled that storyline off very well.
With Voyager I think the reason they pulled the Borg and Seven of Nine's character into the mix was to boost ratings which they certainly did. I admit I never missed an episode when the Borg were involved as they were my absolute favorite enemy. Unfortunately, through doing so they over used that as a plot device, and ended up neutralizing the Borg as a serious threat. In the final episode of Voyager, Final Gambit, Janeway came back through time and gave Voyager antiborg technology that wasn't to be developed for another 20 years. As a result when Voyager returned home the Federation now knew how to build weaponry and armaments that could stand up to the Borg. Plus added to that problem in Final Gambit Admiral Janeway also unleashed a virus directly into the Borg Queen that caused the entire Borg fleet to destroy itself. Even if it only effected one single Borg fleet its another proven weapon that can and probably would be employed again to destroy the Borg. It left the fate of the Borg in a rather questionable state. My point being that even if Paramount were to launch a new series that picked up where Voyager left off the Borg would never be the fearsome and super villains they once were back in TNG, Deep Space 9, and Voyager. They effectively wrote them off by developing new weapons and technologies that eliminated them as a serious threat to the Federation. However, over all Voyager set out to bring back what made the original Star Trek and Next Generation appealing, and it did that very well. They encountered new hostile races never seen before on the television series, and introduced new allies as well. Voyager was on their own so it had a combination of exploration/survival element to it. I only regret that there weren't that many Voyager books and video games written for the series, because I think third-party authors could have done much more to extend the history of their seven year voyage than was covered. As far as writing an accessible Voyager game goes I suppose it is possible. I've actually got quite a lot of sounds, music, and even voice clips from Voyager. Weather it would be enough to create a game or not would be questionable, but I think it could be done. Cheers! On 1/13/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tom. > > This is all true as regards startrek, indeed for the military and politics > plot I think babylon 5 can't be beaten. > > for instance, in Babylon 5, the relations betwene the main races were not > streight forward. > > The humans were a major power, but eventually fell into a military > dictatorship with the show focusing on the now independent B5 and their > relations with other races. The mimbari had their own religious concerns, > but also had just come out opf a major war with the humans meaning relations > betwene those two races were very strained, while the Sentari were a > steadily declining power trying desperately to make alliances and regain > lost ground (especially concerning their relations with the Narn). Then > behind all of these you have the Vorlons and shaddows playing games and > causing or preventing conflict. > > this lead to a lot of very complex relations betwene the different powers > that just didn't seem to come up in Ds9. > > i think Startrek, having setup the Federation as pretty much a perfect > utopian society with o classes much less a dictatorship,had rather a lot of > trouble intigrating the sort of complex relations betwene different cultures > with their history necessary to back up a war plot. > > while I did enjoy Ds9, it was primarily for the characters and their > interactions than really any interest in the power struggle, where as > babylon 5 the two were intimately connected. > > Voyager I really liked for the first three seasons, when you did! indeed > have new aliens and interesting situations in a totally unknown region of > space that challenged the crew out on their own, ---- for example the > alliance they had to make against the Kaison directly against federation > policy, but one needed by necessity. This was distinctly the thing I always > enjoyed in startrek. > > It however did seem after series three the plots got a little stale, certain > characters such as Kim and Paris stopped evolving, and virtually every > situation was solved by a deus x nano machina, ---- ie, 7 of 9's nano probes > (which i quite like 7 as a character, I got heartily sick of hereing "we can > modify her nano probes to solve this!). > > Plot aside though, the voyaging of voyager was fantastic, and something I'd > love to see in a startrek game, actual new situations and challnges > presented to the player out of the blue. > > Btw, this is also why i'm such a major Doctor who fan, sinse the Tardis can > go very litterally anywhere! in time or space from Ancient Rome, to > prehistory, to the distant future or hundreds of alien worlds. However a > doctor who game would be less practical, unless of course it was some sort > of text adventure with puzzles that you could get through > interlectually, ---- hmmm another gamebook perhaps? :D. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected].
