Dari sepakterjangnya, "Ciri Tiongkok" kelihatan tidak bermuatan ide RBKP tapi 
memang padat dengan permodalan layaknya bisnis finans. Walhasil inilah bisnis 
finans berstruktur negara dengan "Ciri Tiongkok"; ciri yang mengingatkan pada 
kerajaan era dinasti-dinasti terkenal itu.
Sekalipun tabiat kapitalistik kerajaan tidak mau diakui, tetap saja kenyataan 
yang ada tidak bisa dipungkiri. Chan misalnya, yang  mati-matian tidak mengakui 
RRC  kapitalis toh tau-tau dengan bangga, sukarela, dan telaten :) menjelaskan 
kenyataan yang ada, bahwa pola pikir RRC berurat-akar pada jaman kerajaan 
ratusan tahun lalu, hehehe..... 
Karena itu biarlah Chan atau siapa pun bersikeras tidak mau mengakui RRC adalah 
negara kapitalis; tidak mau mengakui gencarnya penanaman modal dan royalnya RRC 
mengutangi banyak negara; tidak mau mengakui semua itu adalah ciri mencapai 
tahapan tertinggi, toh nyatanya bangga juga melihat RRC kini bisa bersaing 
dagang dengan AS, berani mengancam Filipina, ikut menyalahkan Korut, dan 
gembira mengabarkan pengusaha / investornya sedang long mars bergelombang 
"menyerbu" EU. 
Siapa pun boleh saja menolak RRC disebut kapitalis atau imperialis berkembang. 
Yang pasti, apa yang diperbuat RRC adalah kenyataan yang tidak bisa dipungkiri. 
Teruslah ungkap kenyataan dan pernyataan resmi pemerintah maupun warga RRC yang 
ternyata suka berlawanan dengan opini para komentator di sini.. Seperti 
misalnya tentang kaitan ekspansi bisnis dan pangkalan militer di bawah itu.
--- jetaimemucho1@... wrote:
       

 
Ya, iya lah, bung Ajeg, "sosialisme dengan ciri Tkk" yang sebenarnya adalah 
"kapitalisme dengan ciri Tkk" dan "imperialisme dengan ciri Tkk".

Lha tulisan dibawah ini dilewatkan saja oleh Chan, karena nggak bisa bantah.. 
Wong pejabat Tkk sendiri yang mengakui ambisi mempunyai basis militer di tiap 
benua..Kalau orang ngerti tentang kapitalis monopoli berkedok PKT yang sekarang 
berkuasa di Tkk, sebenarnya perkembangan Tkk menjadi imperialis sama sekali 
tidak mengherankan. Itu sebuah perkembangan yang wajar. Persis seperti AS, Tkk  
mengakui adanya 30,000 perusahaan Tkk, beberapa juta pekerja Tkk, investasi 
yang mencapai 118 bilyun dolar, stock dari aset Tkk diluar negeri sudah 
mencapai beberapa triliun dollar. Semua ini pasti dia ingin lindungi bukan 
secara politik saja tapi juga dengan militer/tentaranya. Diakui basis militer 
di Djiboeti bukan yang terakhir!! Lho, sudah diakui sendiri oleh pejabat tinggi 
Tkk, tapi agen kecilnya terus ngeyel "Sosialisme dengan ciri Tkk" yang tidak 
mau ngangkangi dunia!! Jaman Mao dulu kenapa tidak ada klaim atas Laut Tiongkok 
Selatan.. Ya itu bedanya Mao dan Deng. Mao yang bilang Deng tidak membedakan 
antara imperialisme dan Marxisme...Jelas di mata kita persaingan dan 
pertarungan antara Tkk dengan AS terus meningkat. Mereka berdualah yang menjadi 
sumber perang. Eh, kok yang disalahkan malah Korut, negeri kecil yang 
diblokade, dikenakan sanksi ekonomi dan menuduhnya sebagai provokator perang!! 
Dimana logikanya??

Overseas Military Bases

The ‘belt and road initiative’ is a strategy for setting up a string of regimes 
in states surrounding India and headed by strongmen financially beholden to 
China.

The PLA’s responsibilities today have gone beyond the scale of guarding the 
Chinese territories. The PLA must protect China's interests anywhere in the 
world. Overseas military bases will provide cutting-edge support for China to 
guard its growing overseas interests.

As China's first overseas military base, the Djibouti base has more important 
meanings. A Navy commander said that Djibouti will provide China with 
experience of building overseas military bases. After all, China has not had 
any such bases before. Djibouti is just the first step.

Reporter with Phoenix Satellite TV asked questions to Wang Yi on the Djibouti 
base and expanding of China’s overseas interests at the press conference of the 
fourth session of China's 12th National People’s Congress.

Wang Yi replied, "You mentioned China’s growing overseas interests. I think it 
is the key to understanding the matter. Like any major country that is growing, 
China’s overseas interests are expanding.. At present, there are 30,000 Chinese 
enterprises all over the world and several million Chinese are working and 
living in all corners of the world. Last year, China’s non-financial outbound 
direct investment reached 118 billion U.S. dollars and the stock of China’s 
overseas assets reached several trillion U.S. dollars. So it has become a 
pressing task for China’s diplomacy to better protect our ever-growing overseas 
interests."

In an editorial published 21 April 2017 marking the anniversary of China's 
navy, the official military outlet PLA Daily suggested that the nation needed 
six aircraft carriers, an enlarged marine corps and ten naval bases in friendly 
foreign nations. "In the long run, China needs to develop its own aircraft 
carrier battle teams, with at least six aircraft carriers, maritime forces led 
by guided missile destroyers, as well as attack submarines," said Xu Guangyu, a 
senior advisor to the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association. "China 
will build about ten more bases for the [carriers] . . . Hopefully, China could 
have bases in every continent, but that depends on countries which would like 
to cooperate with China.."

Xu Guangyu, a senior advisor to the China Arms Control and Disarmament 
Association wrote "China will build about ten more bases for the [carriers] . . 
. Hopefully, China could have bases in every continent, but that depends on 
countries which would like to cooperate with China." China is already building 
its first-ever overseas military base, a "support facility" in Djibouti, and it 
is also funding the construction of new seaports at Gwadar, Pakistan and 
Hambantota, Sri Lanka.

The 06 June 2017 annual report to Congress on Chinese military power said 
"China most likely will seek to establish additional military bases in 
countries with which it has a longstanding friendly relationship and similar 
strategic interests, such as Pakistan".

It is reasonable and necessary for China to strengthen its maritime power as it 
is becoming stronger, Chinese experts said after People's Daily published three 
articles on a whole page on 11 February 2018 to emphasize the importance of 
building China into a strong maritime country. "Building China as a maritime 
power fits China's development, the global trend and is the necessary choice 
for realizing the Chinese Dream of the national rejuvenation," read one article 
published on People's Daily under the topic "It's about time to build a strong 
maritime country."

The three articles reviewed China's maritime development since the 18th 
National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in 2012, including 
promoting marine ecological protection, safeguarding integrity and the national 
interests as well as launching cooperation on disputed issues. The authors of 
the three articles included Liu Jixian, former head of the People's Liberation 
Army (PLA) Academy of Military Science in Beijing.

With development of the Belt and Road initiative, massive personnel, resources 
and property are expanding to other countries and some countries are facing 
problems like war and terrorism, Liu wrote. Thus it was urgent that China 
strengthen its maritime power to protect overseas interests, he noted. 
"Building a powerful maritime strength is the strategic mainstay of China's 
development," he said.

"These articles sent a clear message that China will invest more efforts in 
strengthening its ability to safeguard sea routes and overseas interests," Xu 
Guangyu, a retired major general and senior adviser to the China Arms Control 
and Disarmament Association, told the Global Times. "More overseas logistic 
bases will be built in the future to assist the PLA Navy to conduct operations 
globally."

"There is no need to hide the ambition of the PLA Navy: to gain an ability like 
the US Navy so that it can conduct different operations globally," Xu said. 
"The US is a global power with massive overseas interests. Considering that 
China has already become a global economic power, it is entirely reasonable for 
China to boost its maritime power." The Djibouti base "won't be the last," he 
said. "More overseas bases will be built on different continents for sure, but 
they are not military bases and not based on a military alliance with other 
countries. Instead, they are based on partnership and not targeting any other 
country," Xu said.

China's maritime ambition is not the same as Western countries when they built 
their sea hegemony in the past, said Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of 
International Affairs at the Renmin University of China in Beijing.

On Sunday, April 21, 2019, 6:52:29 PM GMT+2, ajeg wrote:

Menurut Chan di topik LCS, sengketa RRC dengan Filipina dll karena klaim RRC 
atas LCS berpegang pada anggapan sejak jaman kerajaan ratusan tahun lalu. 
Artinya, ini pengakuan bahwa "berciri Tiongkok" tidak lain adalah Republik 
Rakyat yang bertabiat imperial kuno. Alias, republik neo imperial, hehe.... 

Karena bertabiat imperial maka dengan sendirinya slogan "berciri Tiongkok" 
merupakan pilihan sang emperor.

--- jetaimemucho1@... wrote:
Sosialisme berkarakter Tiongkok yang kaum remo sendiri tidak dapat menjelaskan 
bagaimana " cara produksi" nya .????. Itu  bukan pilihan rakyat atau Mao, jelas 
pilihan kaum revisionis Deng xiaoping dengan teori kucing hitam kucing 
putihnya. Kalau mau kutip Mao, jangan lupa ini!! Chan bisanya membuat  
interpretasi sendiri terhadap Mao. Setiap kali mengutip kata-kata Mao, kemudian 
 dibuktikan tidak sesuai dengan kenyataannya. Karena dia menginterpretasinya 
disesuaikan dengan pikirannya yang revisionis!!
Jelas di Mingguan Peking, ditulis Deng xiaoping sebagai capitalist-roader 
(pengambil jalan kapitalis) yang menegasi perjuangan kelas dan mempraktekkan 
revisionisme. Dan Mao bilang "orang ini tidak mencengkam perjuangan kelas. 
Kucing hitam kucing putih tidak membedakan imperialisme dengan Marxisme."  
Jelas, kucing hitam kucing putih adalah teori reaksioner!! Coba kita tunggu 
bagaimana jawaban si remo Chan terhadap pendapat Mao ini. Paling-paling,, oo 
ini HOAX!!!
IN the struggle to beat back the Right deviationistattempt to reverse correct 
verdicts, Chairman Mao has penetratingly exposed and criticized the nature of 
theunrepentant capitalist-roader Teng Hsiao-ping in negating the taking of 
classstruggle as the key link and in practising revisionism. ChairmanMao has 
pointed out: “This person does not grasp class struggle; he hasnever referred 
to this key link. Still his theme of ‘white cat, black cat,’making no 
distinction between imperialism and Marxism.” It is of extremely great 
significance for us to study conscientiouslythis important directive of 
Chairman Mao’s, make an in-depth criticism of the reactionary themeabout “white 
cat, black cat,” draw a clear demarcation line between Marxism andrevisionism 
and between socialism on the one hand and capitalism andimperialism on the 
other so as to adhere to the Party’s basic line and carrythe socialist 
revolution through to the end.
The reactionary fallacy “Itdoesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black 
cat, any cat that catchesmice is a good cat” came out in 1961. 
Disini, apa kata Mao? Mao bicara tentang hubungan produksi sosialis yang sesuai 
dengan perkembangan tenaga produktif di Tkk ketika itu. Mao menjebut apa 
hubungan produksi di Tkk ketika itu: hubungan produksi sosialis!!!Sedangkan 
Deng tidak pernah mau menjelaskan atau menyebut hubungan produksi apa didalam 
masyarakat "Sosialisme dengan ciri Tkk". Kalau Deng yang dedengkotnja saja 
tidak mau mengakui, apalagi agen kecilnya, si Chan!!! Yang ditampilkan 
pembagian dalam kepemilikan!! Ha...ha.. itu mah bukan cara produksi!!!! Kalau 
mau pinter, akui dulu, jangan ngeyel dalam kegoblokan yang sebetulnya penipuan.
Which one is better, socialism or capitalism? Whither China? This is aquestion 
that has been cleared up long ago. Chairman Mao pointed outin unmistakable 
terms: “The present social system of our country is farsuperior to that of the 
old days. If it were not so, the old system would nothave been overthrown and 
the new system could not have been established. Insaying that socialist 
relations of production are better suited to thedevelopment of the productive 
forces than are the old relations of production,we mean that they permit the 
productive forces to develop at a speedunattainable in the old society.” (On 
the Correct Handling ofContradictions Among the People.
Bagaimana praktek kucing hitam kucing putih di lapangan/dalam kenyataan? Jelas 
disini dijelaskan: kucing hitam kucing putih berarti mempraktekkan pertanian 
individual, spekulasi, perusahaan swasta, dan akibatnja: hancur ekonomi 
kolektif ( maksudnya komune rakyat yang memang dihancurkan Deng), usaha 
sosialis menjadi sia-sia dan DP berubah menjadi DB (kediktaturan borjuis)
Apakah ini tidak sesuai dengan kenyataannya jang ada sekarang di Tkk?
If we were toact in the way proposed by Teng Hsiao-ping, let all the capitalist 
“white catsand black cats” come out, engage in individual farming and 
speculation, andembark on free enterprises, then the socialist collective 
economy woulddisintegrate, the cause of socialism would go down the drain and 
the stateunder the dictatorship of the proletariat would be turned into one 
under thedictatorship of the bourgeoisie
Sangat sering sekali kita mendengar komentar yang mendefinisi Deng sebagai 
orang yang pragmatis. Ya memang betul. Cocok dan sesuai dengan apa yang sudah 
dicanangkan di Peking Review: pragmatisme membantu mempertahankan kepentingan 
kaum borjuis ,  dan sesuai dengan kebutuhan kaum revisionis yang bekerja untuk 
restorasi dan kemunduran  . dan ini cocok dengan apa yang selalu saya katakan: 
Deng "memundurkan" revolusi sosialis menjadi revolusi nasional demokratis. Tapi 
itu sebetulnya tidak mungkin. Itu hanya penipuan kaum revisionis. Chan tak 
pernah bisa jawab mana musuh2 revolusi nasdemnya??
Precisely becausepragmatism helps preserve the interests of the bourgeoisie and 
is deceptive toa certain degree, it meets the needs of the revisionists in 
working forrestoration and retrogression. 
On Sunday, April 21, 2019, 2:39:59 PM GMT+2, ChanCT wrote:
Dalam kenyataan pertarungan didunia internasional, jelas nampak RRT makin 
berada diatas angin dan AS makin terpojok, ... Siapa yang menghianati klas 
buruh??? Siapa yang jilat pantat imperialisme Trump!
Harus saya TEGAS kan disini, bahwa Jalan Sosialisme berkarakter Tiongkok adalah 
pilihan rakyat Tiongkok sendiri, dan itu sepenuhnya HAK Rakyat Tiongkok yang 
tidak bisa kita intervensi dari luar, ... kita diluar hanya bisa melihat dan 
menghormati jalan yg dipilih rakyat Tiongkok itu! Dan sebagai pembela RAKYAT 
sedunia, dimanapun berada, anda sudah seharusnya juga menghormati, TIDAK 
sebaliknya melecehkan apalagi menghina yg nggak-nggak dan semua berdasarkan 
HOAX, FITNAH saja!
Tatiana Lukman 於 21/4/2019 18:37 寫道:
Dasar remo, pengkhianat kaum buruh, tidak bisa menjawab kenyataan di bawah ini, 
jalan keluarnya:  bilang saja  ini HOAX!!! Ihhh, tidak punya malu!! Dulu 
petantang petenteng menganggap diri paling M-L, pulang sekarang juga membangun 
basis, ...tahu-tahunya pepesan kosong, jilat air ludah sendiri!!!!

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