"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > On 1/6/02 8:06 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > >> I thought I would share, as my thinking about removing community containers > >> here in Jakarta, XML et al resonates well this. > > > > Personally, I just think its mainly a matter of packaging. By > > definination, we are all trying to share the same ASF culture, though > > each codebase will have its own flavor. > > If you really believe this, then the right thing is to get rid of *all* > containers : > > Jakarta + HTTPD + XML + TCL + PHP + APR + Perl
I believe that the subcultures exist mainly at the subproject level. The subprojects, like many states and provinces are, simply granfalloons. http://www.kcoyle.net/granfalloons.html I believe the projects are useful as an organizational entity, but have little impact on the culture of a subproject. If the two were at varience, the subproject would fork. People do not join the "project", they join the subproject. The projects are happenstance, but they are useful as an organizational convenience. I also believe that the PMCs themselves should be seen as an organizational entity, and conversations like this should be taking place on a public apache-projects list that all PMCs would be invited to join and use for PMC business. It is very difficult to have a reasonable conversation about POI, or RPC-XML, or the others that have come up, when the other PMCs are not part of the discussion. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
