On 11/30/03 11:56 PM, "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andrew: > > Why don't you just get to the issue. You chose to piss on project your > not involved with, not interested in, and not even tracking. From this > position, you chose to criticise both the project and me personally. > Presumably you did this for some reason that you feel is justified. I > think you choice of phrase could have much more creative, yes, even > constructive. > > Not withstanding, let's not fall back on Howard as the standing excuse! > > > So get to the point - explain to me why you fell "Avalon" is so threatening. > Perhaps you missed that part of my message. I'll repeat the most important parts of it for your convenience: " I prefer to see Hivemind established as a community (as far as I know Howard is the only member of the community ATM) before exploring as you say. I see no reason to deprive Howard of the opportunity to establish Hivemind and build a community. " and " The truth is that the Avalon "brand" is nothing to be sought while Jakarta is. Being consumed by Avalon will, of course, make building a community more difficult. While Hivemind is a virgin idea that needs community building, and is not ready for Jakarta -- it is surely not ready for Avalon either. " As for you, I find your need to hold a dual personal discussion distasteful if not duplicitous as I stated already and this is the reason I feel justified in questioning your intentions. Perhaps you can offer guidance on why my feelings on this matter were not clear enough? Feel free to mail them to the list rather than to me personally. I monitor the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list fairly regularly and thus you can be assured that I'll see it. Thus the intended content of my original message is unchanged: 1. Howard should be encouraged to found the HiveMind community as he sees fit within the normal social boundries (he's not getting a jakarta subproject until its ready and he'll be forced into the incubator quagmire to get there until enough people realize the incubator is a bad idea) 2. HiveMind should not be forced to combine with Avalon 3. Avalon should not be forced to be subservient to HiveMind 4. Live and let live 5. communication regarding Jakarta should be open and on the lists I thought it was pretty clear from the start, but I guess I failed to communicate it clearly enough. -Andy > Stephen. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
