On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) <hk...@gentoo.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Duncan wrote: >> Patrick Börjesson <psychoti...@lavabit.com> posted >> 20090529201741.gb11...@nexon.nexus, excerpted below, on Fri, 29 May 2009 >> 22:17:41 +0200: >> >>> Why exactly would you want to use --oneshot for a "leaf package" that is >>> not depended on by any other package in the world set? If spam IS >>> depended on by any other package (recursively) in the world set, it will >>> be pulled in by --complete-graph, but that's not the case here if i >>> understand it correctly, thus it's a package that you explicitly wanted >>> installed, thus it belongs in the world set, and you should thus not use >>> --oneshot for it. >> >> I use -1 by default, here (via scriptlet), mainly so I don't have to >> worry about cluttering up my world file while emerging individual >> packages, just as I always use -NuD with my @system and @world runs. >> >> But for leaf packages, it serves as a sort of test install as well. >> Since I always do revdep-rebuild -p and emerge --depclean -p after every >> update (typically 2-3 times a week), then rebuild and clean as I need to, >> keeping the "trial merges" on the depclean list for a few days keeps me >> aware of them. If I know it's something I want to keep, I run a >> different scriptlet without the -1, but that's not often once a system is >> up and running with the normal working set merged. Meanwhile, I >> ultimately either emerge -C (or let depclean handle it) the "trialware", >> or emerge --noreplace, thus adding it to world. >> >> But experimental installs and their deps typically sit in the --depclean >> list for anything from a few minutes to a few days, until I decide >> whether I want to keep or remove them. >> >> If he was testing how the switches under discussion here worked and has a >> similar policy, I could easily see him using -1 by habit, even if he >> didn't explicitly reason that it was a test and therefore something he >> didn't want in @world. > > I think this is an interesting use-case. It would be very simple to handle it > by > introducing an additional file that the package manager would use to record > the > packages that are installed on trial-basis. This would make it possible to > include these packages in dep-calculations, while still distinguishing them > from > packages that are in @world. Of course you can also fake it by creating a > local > virtual/trialware package (or possibly a @trialware group) of which you edit > the > deps, but this would be less convenient. For my personal workflow using -1 for > trials is working well enough, atm.
Why is a custom set less convenient? > > Marijn > > - -- > If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. > > Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML > <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkoiaCoACgkQp/VmCx0OL2yMRgCeKQ+bIh6RViaTiHKBc8bkREBo > yF0An2XXyngQ2cfuYwKHdUMBP5efcHrV > =Xfc/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >
