Geoffrey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Carol Spears wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 09:28:55PM +0200, Simon Budig wrote: > > > >>You have yet to explain what is so bad to design a file selector so that > >>Luis' mother can use it. I think this is a great goal (although the GTK+ > >>developers did overshot a bit, hampering the usability for > >>computer-savvy people). And since GUI design and usability is not a pure > >>"technical" topic the illustrative answer "it was designed so that my > >>mother can use" is a perfectly valid answer. There very well might be no > >>answer that suits your implied "technical" request. > >> > > > >http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/basics/gui/fileselector/index.html > >http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/basics/gui/fileselector/console.html > > After reviewing the change, I agree it is for the worse. I was quite > pleased when I stumbled on the tab completion in the GIMP. I much > prefer the older flavor which includes the tab completion as well as the > drop down directory selection.
Please note that I did not ask carol for the reasons why the new GTK+-Filechooser has deficiencies. I'd guess that we would come to the same conclusion very quick. I too see the need to improve the GtkFilechooser and I am not happy with the current state. If you read my question on top of the mail again you'll notice that I did not ask what is bad about the fileselector, I asked what would be bad with a fileselector that Luis Mother can use. I firmly believe that making the FileChooser accessible to people with few computing experience (lets say my grandmother, Luis Mother or whatever, pick your favourite person) is a good goal to have in mind. Implicitely you raise two questions: 1) What are the reasons for the way the (new) GtkFilechooser is designed? 2) Why did GIMP switch from GtkFileSelector (old) to GtkFilechooser (new) despite the deficiencies in the Filechooser? I cannot really comment on question 1, since this is in the responsibility of the GTK+-Team. There is (was? AFAIK it used to live on http://www.gnome.org/~seth/filechooser-spec/ ) a document online that discusses the reasoning behind the design. For question 2 the person to ask probably is Sven or Mitch. From what I understood the old Fileselector had quite a number of technical problems. It was hard to extend with the stuff Gimp needs. Things like the Thumbnail preview had to be embedded in a very hackish way, making it very sensitive against changes in future versions of GTK+. Plus it is foreseeable that the Fileselector will become deprecated at some point. The Gimp always has been an early adopter of new GTK+ features and since the FileChooser is a step in the right direction it was only logical to use it and it should be our goal to help the GTK+ developers to overcome the current problems in the FileChooser. However, this needs cooperation with the GTK+ developers. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ _______________________________________________ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user