Hi,

> Am 13.04.2018 um 22:42 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <h...@goldelico.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Am 13.04.2018 um 20:06 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <h...@goldelico.com 
>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi Sven,
>> 
>>> Am 13.04.2018 um 19:29 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de 
>>> <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>>:
>>> 
>>> Hello Nikolaus, 
>>> 
>>> on my GTA04A5 it behaves exactly as expected: The ball now moves to the 
>>> correct directions,
>> 
>> Fine! One problem solved.
>> 
>>> but slowly and stuttering.
>> 
>> Bugs are like onions or matryoshka dolls :)
>> 
>> Isn't that what one would expect? It starts slowly and becomes faster and 
>> faster, i.e. accelerates over time.
>> 
>>> Like if you view a film with not enough pictures per second. 
>> 
>> Or do you mean that the ball is jumping by single pixels if you tilt the 
>> device just a little?
>> I have made a short video how it looks on my GTA04:
>> 
>>      http://download.goldelico.com/qtmoko2/files/MAH00877.m4v 
>> <http://download.goldelico.com/qtmoko2/files/MAH00877.m4v>
> I have uploaded it to YouTube:
> 
>       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHk8AtigL4k 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHk8AtigL4k>
> 
>> 
>> Does it look the same for you?
> 
> Ok, here is an old Freerunner video for comparison (thanks to Raanan Elefant):
> 
>       https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jaRtQOPMBO4 
> <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jaRtQOPMBO4>
> 
> I think we either have lower accelerometer sensitivity or the frame-rate is 
> lower.
> 
> For the latter we need some expert who knows how Qt really works and
> controls the frame rate...

Here is another video. Where QtMoko2 has been rougly hacked [1] to boot and run 
on a Pyra:

        https://youtu.be/Wx6Anhspa7I

As you can see, the graphics of QtMaze doesn't differ from the GTA04. So this is
not a matter of "horsepower" of the hardware (OMAP3 vs. OMAP5).

BR,
Nikolaus

[1]: http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wheezy

> 
> BR,
> Nikolaus
> 
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards 
>>>    Sven 
>>>     
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Von:        "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> An:        List for communicating with real GTA04 owners 
>>> <gta04-owner@goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner@goldelico.com>> 
>>> Datum:        13.04.2018 17:48 
>>> Betreff:        Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2 
>>> Gesendet von:        "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sven, 
>>> 
>>> Am 12.04.2018 um 19:35 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <h...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>>: 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sven, 
>>> 
>>> Am 12.04.2018 um 17:55 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de 
>>> <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>>: 
>>> 
>>> Hello Nikolaus, 
>>> 
>>> have you tried if GTA04A5 now moves the ball in QtMaze as smooth, fast and 
>>> natural and without stuttering as the GTA04A4? 
>>> 
>>> Well, I don't know what you expect for "smooth, fast and natura"l, I just 
>>> found that they move almost the same now 
>>> between both devices - and qtmoko2. 
>>> 
>>> So, finally, I have checked (and additionally fixed the z axis inversion 
>>> for GTA04A5) and the files are now on the server: 
>>> 
>>> root@letux:~# apt-get upgrade 
>>> Reading package lists... Done 
>>> Building dependency tree       
>>> Reading state information... Done 
>>> The following packages will be upgraded: 
>>>   qtmoko-gta04 
>>> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 
>>> Need to get 24.2 MB of archives. 
>>> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. 
>>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y 
>>> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! 
>>>   qtmoko-gta04 
>>> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y 
>>> Get:1 http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/debian/ 
>>> <http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/debian/> wheezy/main 
>>> qtmoko-gta04 armhf 60.20180413-1 [24.2 MB] 
>>> Fetched 24.2 MB in 32s (737 kB/s)                                           
>>>                                                                             
>>>                                   
>>> (Reading database ... 21235 files and directories currently installed.) 
>>> Preparing to replace qtmoko-gta04 60.20180411-1 (using 
>>> .../qtmoko-gta04_60.20180413-1_armhf.deb) ... 
>>> Unpacking replacement qtmoko-gta04 ... 
>>> Setting up qtmoko-gta04 (60.20180413-1) ... 
>>> localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 0 KiB 
>>> localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 0 KiB 
>>> 
>>> Total disk space freed by localepurge: 0 KiB 
>>> 
>>> root@letux:~# 
>>> 
>>> BR, 
>>> Nikolaus 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't have time to make a 2nd SD cards to boot two devices and compare 
>>> them in parallel... 
>>> 
>>> So answering this question seems to be in better hands if you do it. 
>>> 
>>> BR, 
>>> Nikolaus 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards 
>>>   Sven 
>>>    
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Von:        "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> An:        List for communicating with real GTA04 owners 
>>> <gta04-owner@goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner@goldelico.com>> 
>>> Datum:        12.04.2018 14:52 
>>> Betreff:        Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2 
>>> Gesendet von:        "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 12.04.2018 um 14:32 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de 
>>> <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>>: 
>>> 
>>> Hello Nikolaus, 
>>> 
>>> it would astonish me if you're right, but of course I'll then test it again 
>>> in order to give you a chance to astonish me...    :-)) 
>>> 
>>> I have done this test for you: 
>>> 
>>> GTA04A4 and GTA04A5 with display upside on the table with the same µSD card 
>>> (i.e. boot A5 first, then swap card and boot A4). 
>>> Run evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20 and write down highest X/Y/Z values. 
>>> 
>>> On a GTA04A5: 
>>> 
>>> root@letux:~# evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20 
>>> Input driver version is 1.0.1 
>>> Input device ID: bus 0x0 vendor 0x0 product 0x0 version 0x0 
>>> Input device name: "accelerometer-iio-input-bridge" 
>>> Supported events: 
>>>  Event type 0 (EV_SYN) 
>>>  Event type 3 (EV_ABS) 
>>>    Event code 0 (ABS_X) 
>>>      Value     14 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>>    Event code 1 (ABS_Y) 
>>>      Value    -32 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>>    Event code 2 (ABS_Z) 
>>>      Value   -253 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>> Properties: 
>>> Testing ... (interrupt to exit) 
>>> root@letux:~#  
>>> 
>>> This means: X=14/256 = +5%, Y=--32/256 = -12%, Z=-253/256 = -99% 
>>> 
>>> On a GTA04A4: 
>>> 
>>> root@letux:~# evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20 
>>> Input driver version is 1.0.1 
>>> Input device ID: bus 0x0 vendor 0x0 product 0x0 version 0x0 
>>> Input device name: "accelerometer-iio-input-bridge" 
>>> Supported events: 
>>>  Event type 0 (EV_SYN) 
>>>  Event type 3 (EV_ABS) 
>>>    Event code 0 (ABS_X) 
>>>      Value    -15 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>>    Event code 1 (ABS_Y) 
>>>      Value     -5 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>>    Event code 2 (ABS_Z) 
>>>      Value    274 
>>>      Min     -511 
>>>      Max      511 
>>> Properties: 
>>> Testing ... (interrupt to exit) 
>>> root@letux:~#  
>>> 
>>> This means: X=-15/256 = +6%, Y=--5/256 = -2%, Z=274/256 = +107% 
>>> 
>>> Comparing A4 and A5: they basically behave *the same* regarding the range 
>>> and report both +/-256 for 1g. They just differ in the orientation of the 
>>> sensor. 
>>> 
>>> I.e. the Z axis also has a sign error. This is still missing in my 
>>> correction patch. 
>>> To make it really precise I should rotate both devices by 90° and write 
>>> down all 
>>> values... 
>>> 
>>> What I don't know and can't compare is if they behave like a GTA02... And 
>>> if a total value of ~1g is what QtMaze expects. And if the QtMaze makes use 
>>> of the Z-axis at all (doesn't look as if it does). 
>>> 
>>> BR, 
>>> Nikolaus 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards 
>>>   Sven 
>>>      
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Von:        "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> An:        List for communicating with real GTA04 owners 
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>>> Datum:        12.04.2018 14:25 
>>> Betreff:        Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2 
>>> Gesendet von:        "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:gta04-owner-boun...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sven, 
>>> 
>>> Am 12.04.2018 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de 
>>> <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>>: 
>>> 
>>> Hello Nikolaus, 
>>> 
>>> fine, but this will "only" correct the swapping. It will still not correct 
>>> the calibration. 
>>> 
>>> Whereat the comments of the affected source give a nice hint: "On my GTA04, 
>>> sitting flat on the table, the raw Z acceleration value is about 256, so we 
>>> divide by 256 here." 
>>> 
>>> So I suggest to add a further printf of the value of "accel -> z", in order 
>>> that your code will provide you the needed calibration data that you can 
>>> then use for "accel -> [xyz]scale" in case of having detected a GTA04A5.   
>>> 
>>> It is easier than a printf: evtest /dev/input/accel reports the range 
>>> [0..512] and the current values. 
>>> 
>>> I have checked that and the GTA04A5 also reports roughly 256. 
>>> 
>>> So I think you should test (after I have uploaded it to the server) if it 
>>> is now ok for you. 
>>> 
>>> BR, 
>>> Nikolaus 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards 
>>>  Sven 
>>>    
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Von:        "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@goldelico.com>> 
>>> An:        Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>> 
>>> Kopie:        List for communicating with real GTA04 owners 
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>>> Datum:        11.04.2018 19:21 
>>> Betreff:        Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sven, 
>>> 
>>> Am 05.04.2018 um 18:05 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de 
>>> <mailto:s.dyr...@phytec.de>>: 
>>> 
>>> Hello Nikolaus, 
>>> 
>>> > I have now booted my GTA04A4 and the orientation is completely correct. 
>>> > Hm. Maybe a subtle difference between GTA04A4 and A5? They use different 
>>> > accelerometer chips. 
>>> 
>>> something like that is what I already assumed. Would have wondered me if 
>>> some scaling factors would have gone lost by just rebuilding QtMoko... 
>>> 
>>> I have now added a device version detection to swap the horizontal axis if 
>>> we run on a GTA04A5: 
>>> 
>>> http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=commit;h=04c30a3b18be8b55148427d6c63423837f6a77cc
>>>  
>>> <http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=commit;h=04c30a3b18be8b55148427d6c63423837f6a77cc>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have not yet published the new debian packages, but will do soon. So 
>>> apt-get update will not 
>>> yet find anything new. 
>>> 
>>> BR, 
>>> Nikolaus 
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