I assume that you have adjusted the ECU pots to various positions?  All of
the pots on my ECU are set to max. - fully rich.  Another item to consider
is that any throttle cable play can be mistaken for surging at low speed.
One final action to take would be to borrow someone's ECU for the day.  If
the bike acts the same with another ECU then its one of the sensors.  If it
cures it then you have a direction, a costly one, but a direction none the
less.

Jeff B.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sorry....surging yet again


Hi Jeff,

Euros....AS IF..... :^)

Thanks for the tip. I actually met Nicholas last summer at a Bike meet at
Beaulie in the New Forest. We had a long chat about getting rid of the
Surging, and I seem to recall that Nicks focus was on the Exhaust and Cat,
which he had removed, and replaced with a free flowing system. By the way
Nicks bike sounds like it runs on Meths. Very nice rumble. Very scary bike.
Very nice bloke.

I have saved off all the relevant data on surging from the past 3 years on
this list, but have yet to find anything that does more than soften the
problem, and I would like to avoid major obvious surgery if possible.

Regards,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Boman, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sorry....surging yet again


David,

Since your quoting prices in pounds and not Euros can I assume that you are
in England?  If so, I'd recommend you see if Nicholas Threader is available
for consultation; He was extremely helpful in helping me cure my surging
problem.  I also recommend that you search the archives on this issue;
there's a lot of information - some applicable and some not, but good info
just the same on this subject.

Jeff B.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sorry....surging yet again


Hi Guys,

With spring only a few weeks away I'm thinking of having a last big push at
getting the surging once and for all out of my bike. I hope to tackle this
problem in stages with each one more severe than the last.

1) Cheap. Get the bike on a Dyno and have the operator try to see what the
problem is and fix it by tweaking the existing system.  Am I expecting to
much from this idea? has any one else been to a Dyno centre?

2) Pricey. Get the engine management chip replaced with a reprogrammed
device ,or fit a Dynojet ICON system to intercept and remap the ECU signals.
Do I really want to bugger around with my standard kit? What will my
insurance company do to my premium?

3) Extortion. Junk the whole damn ECU system, and replace it with a bespoke
system from MoTec. These guys list themselves as specialists in custom ECU
systems. I am considering their M4 unit, which allows for a custom map to
cater for almost every conceivable variable. This unit accepts all data from
the bikes own sensors, lambda, TPS, verbal abuse from pilot etc... It also
means that I could use their SW and my laptop to remap and tinker with my
bike as much as I wanted, and yes I watched "Street-Hawk" as a child! Am I
throwing the best part of �1K down the drain? should I save my money and
trade up / down to an R1100S? Will my insurance company speak to me?

Your comments and derision will be most welcome.

Regards

David




-----Original Message-----
From: nicholas.threader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GTS Front Brake Pads - Non Fluff


Try Vesrah front pads , they give good braking , not much dust or rotor wear
.

atb Nick T

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