Had those same type problems too, and I've noticed that installing
pluggins, tool bars etc. can scruew things up mightily. I found out when
they were accidently installed.
so much complicated stuff.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Window-Eyes discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: window-eyes on the net, bit of a rant
For what it's worth, different websites and different programs use can have
an effect on how things work on the Internet. I recently ran into an issue
on my Windows 7 computer where pressing enter on a link when brows mode is
on would not work. I could have easily blamed window eyes for this problem,
but as it turned out it was some other problems that was going on with my
computer. In fact the problems was so severe that I had to reinstall Windows
from scratch. It was not anything I was looking forward to, but now that I
started over fresh things are working much better.
--
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent from my brain
http://www.raulgallegos.com
Twitter: @rau47
On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:46 PM, "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]> wrote:
In my opinion it seems to be more about the computer and what's on it than
it is the screen reader.
Most computers come with so much junk on them and who knows what
interaction everything will have with a screen reader.
My Linovo Laptop has all sorts of linovo stuff on it and I'm trying to
decide if it'll be OK to just uninstall it.
It's not like the old days when you just got a computer and an install of
Windows on it.
Just some thoughts.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "Loy" <[email protected]>
To: "GW-info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: window-eyes on the net, bit of a rant
Just to say I've been a user of WE since 4.11 and I am not having the
problem you mentioned, pages reloading is not happening for me. I use WE
on my Wells Fargo banking site and also on Bank of America and I am not
having the problems you mentioned. WE is still the best screen reader for
me.
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
<[email protected]>
To: "'G W Micro'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: window-eyes on the net, bit of a rant
Hi Keith and all.
I am in the same position as you except I never bought a SMA in the
first place and not sure if I will either unless the next major release
entices me to do so. I use NVDA nearly full time, and also have
Window-Eyes scripting turned off. I only bought Window-Eyes because of
the Remote Assistance feature, which I cannot use in the demo, fair
enough. So yes, unless the next major version is decent enough I can see
myself putting my money towards donating to NVDA.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 18/04/2012 21:38, Keith Barrett wrote:
Can I start by saying I have been a window-eyes user since version 4.0
and up until version 6.x I found it more or less met all of my
requirements.
In recent times, however, I am having more and more issues when using
the net.
My main issues are, pages constantly reloading, regardless of the
autoload settings and links and onclicks seem often to be invisible to
window-eyes.
I find that now, in order to make full use of the internet, I have to
use nvda most of the time.
As my sma has no more upgrades left, I now have to decide whether to
renew it or donate the ammount I would have spent to nvda.
I am wondering how window-eyes can have, seemingly, fallen so far behind.
I know that there is the suggestion that window-eyes will perform better
in some applications and this may well be so but with the internet
playing such a huge parte in most people's lives, surely, this should
work.
Also, I believe that previously, as the readme states, window-eyes was
the most stable screenreader out there but this seems to have changed
since the introduction of scripting. I now have all scripting turned off
just to try and make window-eyes the most stable screenreader.
I do not usually send much to this list but I am really not sure that I
can consider spending any more on the product when there seem to be so
many issues on the internet.
I hope that for those of us who feel unable to continue with an sma at
present, there will be a chance to upgrade again at a reasonable cost if
window-eyes can return to the quality product that us old-time users are
used to.
Just thinking aloud and as a final thought, bearing in mind how far nvda
seems to have come in its short life, could it be time to consider
making window-eyes open source so that it can get the development it
needs to keep up with the changing technologies.
Hope noone has been offended by any of this but having spent the evening
trying to navigate my online banking site, I needed to let off some
steam.
Regards
Keith Barrett
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