luke wrote:
> I can appreciate the sentiment around attribution. I think that it is
> a very true fact that if you allowed attribution public facing, it
> would encourage the creation and sharing of more themes. I feel that
> the inclusion of rel="nofollow" would mitigate that slightly.

Where I get lost in this argument is in the idea that the creation and 
sharing of a theme be contingent on attribution.  You can already do 
this, but not in the repo.  The only reason a person would want to 
commit such a theme to the repo is for visibility's sake.

It is imperative that contributors not misunderstand the repo as a 
distribution venue.  Its current value as a distribution venue is 
incidental.

Being that the repo was explicitly created with the intent (among other 
significant intents) to cultivate materials (and developers) that are 
appropriate for inclusion in core, and given that no core contribution 
may include personal attribution, it is therefore not appropriate to 
encourage/allow themes with public-facing attribution in the extras repo.

A theme directory on the HabariProject.org site itself, which would 
certainly allow and encourage inclusion of external themes with any 
attribution or even commercial tendencies, is a sorely lacking component 
of our current offerings.  In that venue, any attribution is 
appropriate.  In the repo, only the specified attribution is 
appropriate.  They are different components with different intents.

We should take greater care to keep Habari free and open, which to me is 
an acceptable gain against trading off a bit of early publicity for some 
theme authors who need attribution capabilities before considering 
contribution, something they'll eventually get with a theme directory 
anyway.

The alternative suggested use of the repo, to my ears, is a chaotic 
free-for-all of mixed licenses and attribution, and is potentially one 
of the greatest opportunities for the project to be forced into that 
legal action that we're always fearful of.  If we're concerned about 
project longevity, this is something we should consider more carefully 
before simply throwing open the gates to any contribution, attribution, 
license, or outright plagiarism.  It's a slippery slope.

I think these rules are easier to implement than making attribution 
acceptable only under certain conditions or only when doing it a certain 
way.  What is written about attribution here and on the extras repo wiki 
page is the minimal set of inclusion requirements that everyone seems 
able to agree on.  That is to say, if the requirements for inclusion in 
the repo were more lax or strict, more people would take issue with them 
than what do now.  We can mostly all agree that what the current rules 
say should be included, we should include.

There will always be opinion on what we should include, and it's good to 
revisit it, but I think we have not yet tried to work within the rules 
already defined, nor is there a firm understanding of what the 
components at issue are about.  If we burn the fields of our repo with 
attributed content, we'll not be able to easily recover that land. 
Likewise, consider that any useful theme directory that would help solve 
our problems would likely grow in that otherwise fertile soil.

If we were to direct the energy spent on changing or disagreeing with 
the rules instead at erecting the solution that works with the existing 
rules (creating a theme and plugin directory) to address the true issue 
(top-tier exposure for contributions, whether free or commercial) then I 
think we would be better served in the end, even if the result is to 
determine that we need some other solution.  I can't imagine it, but if 
this proposal fails and we then decide that throwing open the repo doors 
to any contribution, attributed or not, will yield better results, then 
so be it.

Owen


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