It kind of does not help, I do not consider "wall of text" a valid complaint online.
Look, if you want to say that, point out what is irrelevant in my posts. Otherwise, I am just going to say your complaint is completely invalid. Sorry, you need proof behind your words, ~Katrina On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:58:14 pm Dexter wrote: > It has nothing to do with you being a female. It has a lot to do with > you posting walls of texts about irrelevant stuff! > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Katrina Payne > <[email protected]> wrote: > > -blinks- > > > > You know--I should simply start collecting those dolls now. > > > > As from a lot of what people say, it appears to be a thing I should collect. > > > > Go all Meme Bobeck on that stuff. > > > > ~Katrina > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:49:39 pm Casey Doran wrote: > >> ITT: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Katrina Payne <[email protected] > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > Right--so back to the kitchen with me--or whatever crap I obviously do not > >> > know, as I got a few details wrong and lack a Y chromosone... or some such > >> > ridiculous notion. > >> > > >> > Because we all know, none of you ever get any minor details wrong. Which > >> > means, you are never talking crap. > >> > > >> > And trust me--I do not rant on every bloody thread in this list. In fact, > > I > >> > think there have been maybe five or six. So, if this list is made up of > >> > five or > >> > six threads, than I agree. > >> > > >> > Have a good day. > >> > > >> > ~Katrina > >> > > >> > On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:43:24 pm Cory de La Torre wrote: > >> > > We need to turn this HLCoders list to Katrina Payne "Never Stops > > talking" > >> > > List. > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Katrina Payne < > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Protip: I am not doing anything. > >> > > > > >> > > > Unless you can state what it is, and evidence I am doing it. > >> > > > > >> > > > Nobody has, so I am going to say I am not doing anything that I have > >> > not > >> > > > already apologised for and adjusted on. > >> > > > > >> > > > ~Katrina > >> > > > > >> > > > On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:34:38 pm Dexter wrote: > >> > > > > Katrina, > >> > > > > Pro-tip, you're still doing it.. and it doesn't have to do with > >> > Spanish > >> > > > :D > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Katrina Payne > >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:01:05 pm Rodrigo 'r2d2rigo' Diaz > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> Katryna, I find amusing how you always talk about crap you don't > >> > have > >> > > > a > >> > > > clue > >> > > > > >> about, and rant for 20-30 lines. The signature said "Nuevo > >> > Hotmail", > >> > > > and > >> > > > > >> it's a campaign for the new MSN Live! features being deployed. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Look, I made a mistranslation for Neuvo for a word that sounds > >> > similar > >> > > > to > >> > > > the > >> > > > > > English nova. Which the Spanish word that pronounces similar to > > the > >> > > > English > >> > > > > > nova has the translation I did. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Also, to be fair, I really have no idea why any website would need > >> > a > >> > > > new > >> > > > web > >> > > > > > domain just to advertise new features. Or if it is local, why they > >> > are > >> > > > still > >> > > > > > using ".com". > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > So, I saw this site, and generally just assumed it was a phishing > >> > > > site--or > >> > > > > > some form of knock off. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I will assume that this is another bad habit I have attributed > > from > >> > my > >> > > > days on > >> > > > > > the web (this stuff appeared a lot more often in the late nineties, > >> > and > >> > > > early > >> > > > > > 00s). > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > There are a few of these that I need to adjust as they are no > >> > longer > >> > > > helpful-- > >> > > > > > and only hurt me. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Yes, he looks Spanish/South American. Yes, he doesn't have a clue > >> > > > about > >> > > > > >> English. Yes, he doesn't have a clue about programming. Just > >> > another > >> > > > kiddie > >> > > > > >> with the "OMG i want to maek t3h Kaunter Straiekk!! 11oneoneon1! > >> > > > 1eleelven!!1" > >> > > > > >> idea. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, I understand that this likely is a "OMG! I got teh roxxers > >> > ideas!" > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > And yes, I understand what that feeling is like. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I also understand what it feels like to learn that you cannot do > >> > that. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I also understand the feeling of hitting the books to get to the > >> > point > >> > > > where > >> > > > > > you could conceivably do it. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > There is just one requirement. Somebody to be patient with this > >> > crap. > >> > > > Every > >> > > > > > programmer tends to have cycle that we all have gone through to > > get > >> > to > >> > > > our > >> > > > > > current spot. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > The main reason we tend to hate these people is we feel > > embarrassed > >> > for > >> > > > when > >> > > > > > we were that stupid. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody here has done this stuff at one time or another. It is > >> > > > essentially a > >> > > > > > form of being a toddler in the world of game design. Whether we > > did > >> > > > this > >> > > > at > >> > > > > > the age of five, or at the age of sixteen (oh dear sweet merciless > >> > > > Eris, > >> > > > was I > >> > > > > > bad for this when I was sixteen), or into your mid twenties-- some > >> > > > people > >> > > > are > >> > > > > > in this stage in their fourties and fifties. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Now, you can generally frown, and dislike that the toddler is > >> > > > there--due > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > your own embarrassment from the days where we all did the same > >> > thing. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Which I think reeks of immaturity, BTW. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Or you can change these toddlers' diapers. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > One reek or the other people. I have chosen mine--and it is one > >> > that a > >> > > > few > >> > > > > > tend to have issues agreeing. I can understand this. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, I know I am wrong (oh damn--have I been wrong lots)... the > >> > thing > >> > > > is... we > >> > > > > > are all just fvcking this up as we go along. Especially the > >> > successful > >> > > > people. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > ~Katrina > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Nothing to see here, citizens. Move along. > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> 2010/7/26 Katrina Payne <[email protected]> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Well the signature appeared to be for "Neuvo Hotmail". That is > >> > > > > >> > neuvohotmail.com . > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Which does not strike me as any name any spanish hotmail > > service > >> > > > would > >> > > > > > ever > >> > > > > >> > think to use. Neuvo translates roughly to "no go", > >> > "nonexistant", > >> > > > > >> > "nothing", > >> > > > > >> > "nada", "not there". > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Yeah, and I will give you on the LAN version being the only > >> > current > >> > > > real > >> > > > > >> > reason. I said a few times that I considered the other reasons > >> > to > >> > be > >> > > > > >> > entirely > >> > > > > >> > fictional at the current time. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Even to the point of the ridiculous comparison to C'thulhu and > >> > > > Activision > >> > > > > >> > as > >> > > > > >> > the only reason that the others could work. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Though, I am very leery of believing most of the countries said > >> > to > >> > > > be > >> > > > high > >> > > > > >> > in > >> > > > > >> > piracy really are. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > As well, Canada is currently in that list of countries with > >> > large > >> > > > amounts > >> > > > > >> > of > >> > > > > >> > software piracy. Which really makes sense as well some > > companies > >> > are > >> > > > > > trying > >> > > > > >> > to > >> > > > > >> > push we get treated, for shipping and what not, much like how > >> > the > >> > > > USA > >> > > > > >> > treats > >> > > > > >> > trade with China, Russia and Cuba--it is there, but frowned > >> > upon. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > However, I dunno--if he really was a Latin Pirate, using a > >> > Spanish > >> > > > Hotmail > >> > > > > >> > that for some reason was locally called "not there hotmail", I > >> > doubt > >> > > > he > >> > > > > >> > would > >> > > > > >> > ask the official list for a way to help. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > I dunno--and again... the lack of confirmation of the OP makes > >> > this > >> > > > just > >> > > > > >> > seem > >> > > > > >> > like an even more ridiculous troll. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > However, not going to take the chance it is not, and help him, > >> > if > >> > he > >> > > > > >> > requires > >> > > > > >> > it. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Oh and defend my own pride--or something silly like that. Or at > >> > > > least > >> > > > > >> > explain > >> > > > > >> > why I am thinking silly stuff. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > ~Katrina > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > On Sunday, July 25, 2010 09:17:23 pm ZuM wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > Well about the situation you said the lan party is the only > >> > reason > >> > > > i > >> > > > > >> > believe > >> > > > > >> > > someone would use the Won version :P > >> > > > > >> > > Or to pirate the game, because if you look you can find > >> > several > >> > > > pirate > >> > > > > >> > > servers, specially in countries with a very high level of > >> > piracy > >> > > > like > >> > > > > >> > Brasil > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > Also Katrina you mentioned about hotmail, the service is > >> > localized > >> > > > and > >> > > > > >> > > available in a lot of countries, like Argentina, Spain, > > etc... > >> > but > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > > adress is always .com only, just like in Gmail, and that > >> > signature > >> > > > is > >> > > > > > the > >> > > > > >> > > localized version for some country :P > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > 2010/7/25 Katrina Payne <[email protected]> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Well, in my situation, I do not have a computer that could > >> > > > comfortably > >> > > > > >> > run > >> > > > > >> > > > either OS Steam is released for. If I could afford it, I > >> > would > >> > > > get > >> > > > an > >> > > > > >> > Apple > >> > > > > >> > > > computer and get the games on that system. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I really do not understand windows enough to really run it. > >> > As > >> > > > well-- > >> > > > > > it > >> > > > > >> > is > >> > > > > >> > > > a > >> > > > > >> > > > different paradigm of sorts, and I have long since learned > >> > that > >> > > > it > >> > > > is > >> > > > > >> > not a > >> > > > > >> > > > bad > >> > > > > >> > > > OS, I just really have no clue how to get it to function. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > However, in the two situations presented here, I win the > >> > lottery > >> > > > and > >> > > > > >> > start > >> > > > > >> > > > buying Apple products or Steam is released on Linux, I > > would > >> > pay > >> > > > for > >> > > > > >> > games > >> > > > > >> > > > that I enjoy. Even if they are not on sale. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Though, the really odd thing is: Valve seems wary of > >> > releasing > >> > > > on > >> > > > > > Linux > >> > > > > >> > due > >> > > > > >> > > > to > >> > > > > >> > > > one of the reasons of "people on Linux want stuff for free". > >> > > > Though > >> > > > > >> > most > >> > > > > >> > > > Linux > >> > > > > >> > > > users are more anal than me, about paying for stuff. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Then on Windows when I cannot afford a piece of software, I > >> > get > >> > > > a > >> > > > nice > >> > > > > >> > loud > >> > > > > >> > > > choir chorus of, "just get it cracked" > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Meh--I dunno. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > There are reasons to have a nonSteam Half Life Mod. Most of > >> > them > >> > > > are > >> > > > > >> > > > hypothetical, and are not looking like they will happen in > >> > the > >> > > > near > >> > > > > >> > future. > >> > > > > >> > > > Then we have the one that people at LAN parties, or run > >> > their > >> > > > systems > >> > > > > >> > > > standalone every now and again tend to complain about: if > >> > they > >> > > > cannot > >> > > > > >> > get > >> > > > > >> > > > outside their immediate network, the game no longer > >> > functions. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > So, while I can understand the OP's rationale for wanting a > >> > > > nonSteam > >> > > > > >> > > > Halflife > >> > > > > >> > > > Mod if it follows a very legal sense. I am still aware that > >> > > > there > >> > > > is > >> > > > > >> > more > >> > > > > >> > > > reason to doubt that the OP has considered these reasons > >> > than > >> > > > there > >> > > > is > >> > > > > >> > to > >> > > > > >> > > > think he is using them. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > The thing is: this is looking more and more like a troll > >> > post, > >> > > > without > >> > > > > >> > any > >> > > > > >> > > > further update from the OP. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > And well, considering we have had a few recent posts that > >> > were > >> > > > along > >> > > > > >> > the > >> > > > > >> > > > lines > >> > > > > >> > > > of "testing" and that Gmail invite (thank goodness! Those > >> > are > >> > so > >> > > > rare > >> > > > > >> > and > >> > > > > >> > > > hollowed~!)... I am starting to think that this may have > >> > been a > >> > > > troll. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Which has largely resulted in me, and a few others, > >> > preaching > >> > to > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > choir > >> > > > > >> > > > about various subject matters present. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Meh, usually it is at this point the OP comes in, to try to > >> > > > confirm > >> > > > > >> > that > >> > > > > >> > > > this > >> > > > > >> > > > was not a troll post, or something. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ~Katrina > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Sunday, July 25, 2010 05:23:03 pm Harry Jeffery wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > I pay for things that are fairly priced. That means all > >> > valve > >> > > > games, > >> > > > > >> > > > > indie games and games that are on sale in steam. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 26 July 2010 00:14, Katrina Payne > >> > > > <[email protected]> > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Yeah--I really do not agree with software piracy. I > > tend > >> > to > >> > > > be > >> > > > > > very > >> > > > > >> > > > anal > >> > > > > >> > > > > > myself with any agreements and contracts are signed. > >> > People > >> > > > who > >> > > > > >> > have > >> > > > > >> > > > credit > >> > > > > >> > > > > > due get it and all. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > This was why I listed a few hypothetical situations > >> > where a > >> > > > > > cracked > >> > > > > >> > > > game > >> > > > > >> > > > may > >> > > > > >> > > > > > be needed to work without it being for the wrong > >> > > > reasons--and > >> > > > one > >> > > > > >> > that > >> > > > > >> > > > has > >> > > > > >> > > > > > appeared a few times (the LAN one). > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Though, the only way most of those would work, is if > >> > > > Activision > >> > > > > >> > bought > >> > > > > >> > > > Valve-- > >> > > > > >> > > > > > or some other similar occurrence that best fits in a > >> > pulp > >> > > > horror > >> > > > > >> > > > novelette > >> > > > > >> > > > than > >> > > > > >> > > > > > this mailing list. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > And like I said: even if he did get to a point where he > >> > > > could > >> > > > > > start > >> > > > > >> > > > work... it > >> > > > > >> > > > > > would never get in any real direction. Would not work > >> > quite > >> > > > as > >> > > > > >> > > > effectively > >> > > > > >> > > > and > >> > > > > >> > > > > > be a lot harder to arrange than if he just simply did > >> > one > >> > > > that > >> > > > > >> > could > >> > > > > >> > > > (for > >> > > > > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > > > > > current moment) do stuff with the Steam Halflife. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Oh and seeing as how I am looking to join the Pirate > >> > Party > >> > > > of > >> > > > > >> > Canada, > >> > > > > >> > > > it > >> > > > > >> > > > would > >> > > > > >> > > > > > be best to note, that I, and most other people > > involved, > >> > > > frown > >> > > > on > >> > > > > >> > > > people > >> > > > > >> > > > > > going, "Pirates?! OMG! FREE CRAP!" > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > No, I tend to spend more on movies, music and games > > than > >> > > > most > >> > > > > >> > people > >> > > > > >> > > > who > >> > > > > >> > > > do > >> > > > > >> > > > > > not follow these ideas. If anything, since looking into > >> > > > Piracy, > >> > > > I > >> > > > > >> > tend > >> > > > > >> > > > to > >> > > > > >> > > > be > >> > > > > >> > > > > > MORE anal about making certain developers, artists and > >> > the > >> > > > people > >> > > > > >> > > > responsible > >> > > > > >> > > > > > for their works gets what they are owed. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I just do not like really invasive copy protection > >> > schemes > >> > > > and > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > > > unnecessary > >> > > > > >> > > > > > control of the exchange of cultural and information. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I however think that the people who worked hard on this > >> > > > stuff > >> > > > > >> > should > >> > > > > >> > > > get > >> > > > > >> > > > paid > >> > > > > >> > > > > > for it, and should be able to eat, have shelter and all > >> > that > >> > > > other > >> > > > > >> > fine > >> > > > > >> > > > stuff > >> > > > > >> > > > > > that paying them is suppose to give them. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > And I am not alone in my views of how this stuff works. > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ~Katrina > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sunday, July 25, 2010 04:47:17 pm Jonathan Murphy > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Cracked versions of Half-Life/Source games used to > > (are > >> > > > still?) > >> > > > > > be > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> called Non-Steam distributions because you didn't need > >> > to > >> > > > have > >> > > > > >> > Steam > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> installed to play them, they instead were distributed > >> > with > >> > > > hacked > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> binaries that tricked the game into thinking it was > >> > being > >> > > > > > launched > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> with Steam. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> The only limitation to making a mod that works with > >> > > > Non-Steam > >> > > > > >> > distros > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> would be having the correct version of the source to > >> > build > >> > > > your > >> > > > > >> > > > hl.dll/ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> server.dll. Which might be fairly difficult to find. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> And as encouragement of piracy is not condoned on this > >> > list > >> > > > I'd > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> imagine you won't find a lot of help here anyway. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On 25/07/2010, at 1:16 PM, Katrina Payne > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Saturday, July 24, 2010 04:44:19 pm Jonas > > 'Sortie' > >> > > > Termansen > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> I find it ammusing that you follow the trend and > >> > use a > >> > > > more > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> complicated vocabulary as well which will probably > >> > > > leave > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > op > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> quite > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> confused when he runs this through google > >> > translate. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> #ifdef __INTELLIGENCE__ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> I just wrap my posts in ifdefs if I don't want some > >> > > > people > >> > > > to > >> > > > > >> > read > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> them. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> And when I don't want anybody to read them at all, > > I > >> > > > encode > >> > > > > >> > them > >> > > > > >> > in > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> EBCDIC. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> #endif > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> I don't think this guy even has a codebase, at > > least > >> > > > that's > >> > > > > > how > >> > > > > >> > I > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> understand his post, that he is looking for a > >> > Non-Steam > >> > > > > >> > Half-Life > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> SDK. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> He sounds like he is able to make Steam-based > >> > Half-Life > >> > > > mods > >> > > > > >> > and > >> > > > > >> > > > has > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> found some Non-Steam mods, and that he is now > >> > confused > >> > > > how > >> > > > to > >> > > > > >> > do > >> > > > > >> > > > it. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> Though, this HL.dll thing sounds weird to me. Do we > >> > have > >> > > > the > >> > > > > >> > source > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> code > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> for that? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > >> > the > >> > > > list > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> archives, > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > please visit: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > #ifdef __INTELLIGENCE__ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > extern "Geek Humour" { > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Well you can always encode them in preISO ASCII-7. > >> > Maybe > >> > > > also > >> > > > > >> > have > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > them > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > translated to 1337 speak based Aremaic, with a few > >> > items > >> > > > > >> > demostrated > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > only via > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Perl 4 base Jephs (that is, "pretty" code, sometimes > >> > > > ASCII > >> > > > Art > >> > > > > >> > that > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > essentially does nothing when ran), then encrypted > >> > using > >> > > > > >> > Megatoyko's > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > update > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > schedule for your key. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > }; > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > #endif > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > To be fair. Half Life DOES kind of predate Steam. He > >> > may > >> > > > have > >> > > > > >> > found > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > a few > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > items and elements that were done with Half Life > >> > prior > >> > to > >> > > > > >> > Steam's > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > creation. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > This means he does not have to worry about quite as > >> > > > strict > >> > > > of a > >> > > > > >> > copy > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > protection scheme. Which has been one of Steam's > >> > biggest > >> > > > > >> > complaints. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Mostly > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > for games, that lock out, if they cannot talk with a > >> > > > Steam > >> > > > > >> > server > >> > > > > >> > to > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > confirm > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > they are okay for it. Which does kind of suck, if > > you > >> > are > >> > > > not > >> > > > > >> > able > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > to talk to > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Steam on the current computer you are on. Be it for > >> > Valve > >> > > > going > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > under, or > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Valve shutting down Steam--but not continuing > > certain > >> > > > loved > >> > > > > >> > games > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > that used > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > this copy protection scheme or you are doing a LAN > >> > party > >> > > > of > >> > > > > >> > sorts. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Though a con is that he would also be using an > >> > > > excessively > >> > > > OLD > >> > > > > >> > code > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > base. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > We also have a few people that mentioned in the > >> > > > hlds_linux > >> > > > > >> > mailing > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > list about > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > a project to make a Source Workalike that can get > >> > mods > >> > > > that > >> > > > do > >> > > > > >> > not > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > use Valve > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > properties in them (such as models, gadgets and what > >> > not) > >> > > > to > >> > > > > >> > work > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > without Half > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Life 2. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Though my understanding was that the Source > > Workalike > >> > to > >> > > > run > >> > > > > >> > Mods > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > that do not > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > contain Valve IP in them (that is, taking models and > >> > what > >> > > > not > >> > > > > >> > from > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Half Life > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > 1, Half Life 2, Half Life Episodes, TF, TFC, CS, > >> > CS:S, > >> > > > Blue > >> > > > > >> > Shift., > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > etc., > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > etc., etc) was only still, at the very most in an > >> > Alpha > >> > > > state, > >> > > > > >> > if > >> > > > > >> > at > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > that > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > stage of things. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > So--there could be a few things that he COULD be > >> > trying > >> > > > to > >> > > > have > >> > > > > >> > a > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > nonSteam > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Half Life Mod run... > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Just chances are, if he can get them to run--he > > could > >> > not > >> > > > get > >> > > > > >> > them > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > to run well > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > in any way. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ~Katrina > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Gear Dev > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
