First off: it was not me that started this OT shullbit drivel. Point the finger in the right place, please.
And really, I only played it, because of complete puzzlement as to any other reason you guys seem to respond in this douche baggery type way. Going ala my favourite logical fallacy, "the sheer lack of a Nirvana logical fallacy". As essentially, I get this stuff about me doing walls of text, or just talking crap--what is next is the usually "you think you are better than everybody else" shullbit accusation. I really have no idea--as nobody, ever, in the history of the internets, has ever really taken my "OMG! walls of text" and really bothered to explain WHAT any elements are irrelevant. I have just came to understand that "wall of text" either means: 1) Reader has chronic ADHD... probably should not be participating in what is essentially a written medium 2) Reader has a really low reading comprehension level. After a few previous threads, this seems about right. 3) Reader somehow has decided because I am apparently female, and speaking confidently... I must think I am better than them--or some such retarded notion like that. Now, understand, I tried to reroute this by mentioning the trolls dolls--as you can see in this discussions' history. Take a lighter side of things. Possibly try to defuse this situation. But no, I play the sexist card once, and suddenly I show my true colours. Which to be really fair, there have been previous threads where, I have played it, but in a joking manner to indicate embarrassment--just to show a different use I did for it. Now, then, come off that high fvcking horse of yours. Yes, sometimes I am wrong. I can admit that. Though, from the looks of things, I am the only person here that is willing to admit to this. Right--but between either what the correct issues here of chronic ADHD or low reading comprehension, you probably have not gotten to this paragraph. Anyways--look, I must apologise if I have am being bitter. I just hate being told I took something OT, that somebody else did long before me. I also hate having these walls of text complains come up for a medium that IS ONLY EVER DONE IN TEXT. If we were not to have walls of it ever, we would be doing this on IRC or twitter... not a mailing list software. Have a great day. ~Katrina On Monday, July 26, 2010 04:08:39 pm Chris Deegan wrote: > > Omfg. Can we stay on topic. And Katrina, you wanna play the sexism card without any reason? Nice one, really shows your true colours. Please go troll some other list. I'm tired of your bullshit OT drivel. > > Thanks! > > > > On 27/07/2010, at 7:56 AM, Katrina Payne <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -blinks- > > > > You know--I should simply start collecting those dolls now. > > > > As from a lot of what people say, it appears to be a thing I should collect. > > > > Go all Meme Bobeck on that stuff. > > > > ~Katrina > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:49:39 pm Casey Doran wrote: > >> ITT: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Katrina Payne <[email protected] > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Right--so back to the kitchen with me--or whatever crap I obviously do not > >>> know, as I got a few details wrong and lack a Y chromosone... or some such > >>> ridiculous notion. > >>> > >>> Because we all know, none of you ever get any minor details wrong. Which > >>> means, you are never talking crap. > >>> > >>> And trust me--I do not rant on every bloody thread in this list. In fact, > > I > >>> think there have been maybe five or six. So, if this list is made up of > >>> five or > >>> six threads, than I agree. > >>> > >>> Have a good day. > >>> > >>> ~Katrina > >>> > >>> On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:43:24 pm Cory de La Torre wrote: > >>>> We need to turn this HLCoders list to Katrina Payne "Never Stops > > talking" > >>>> List. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Katrina Payne < > >>> [email protected] > >>>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Protip: I am not doing anything. > >>>>> > >>>>> Unless you can state what it is, and evidence I am doing it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Nobody has, so I am going to say I am not doing anything that I have > >>> not > >>>>> already apologised for and adjusted on. > >>>>> > >>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>> > >>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:34:38 pm Dexter wrote: > >>>>>> Katrina, > >>>>>> Pro-tip, you're still doing it.. and it doesn't have to do with > >>> Spanish > >>>>> :D > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Katrina Payne > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2010 03:01:05 pm Rodrigo 'r2d2rigo' Diaz > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> Katryna, I find amusing how you always talk about crap you don't > >>> have > >>>>> a > >>>>> clue > >>>>>>>> about, and rant for 20-30 lines. The signature said "Nuevo > >>> Hotmail", > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>> it's a campaign for the new MSN Live! features being deployed. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Look, I made a mistranslation for Neuvo for a word that sounds > >>> similar > >>>>> to > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> English nova. Which the Spanish word that pronounces similar to > > the > >>>>> English > >>>>>>> nova has the translation I did. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also, to be fair, I really have no idea why any website would need > >>> a > >>>>> new > >>>>> web > >>>>>>> domain just to advertise new features. Or if it is local, why they > >>> are > >>>>> still > >>>>>>> using ".com". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So, I saw this site, and generally just assumed it was a phishing > >>>>> site--or > >>>>>>> some form of knock off. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I will assume that this is another bad habit I have attributed > > from > >>> my > >>>>> days on > >>>>>>> the web (this stuff appeared a lot more often in the late nineties, > >>> and > >>>>> early > >>>>>>> 00s). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are a few of these that I need to adjust as they are no > >>> longer > >>>>> helpful-- > >>>>>>> and only hurt me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, he looks Spanish/South American. Yes, he doesn't have a clue > >>>>> about > >>>>>>>> English. Yes, he doesn't have a clue about programming. Just > >>> another > >>>>> kiddie > >>>>>>>> with the "OMG i want to maek t3h Kaunter Straiekk!!11oneoneon1! > >>>>> 1eleelven!!1" > >>>>>>>> idea. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, I understand that this likely is a "OMG! I got teh roxxers > >>> ideas!" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And yes, I understand what that feeling is like. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also understand what it feels like to learn that you cannot do > >>> that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also understand the feeling of hitting the books to get to the > >>> point > >>>>> where > >>>>>>> you could conceivably do it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is just one requirement. Somebody to be patient with this > >>> crap. > >>>>> Every > >>>>>>> programmer tends to have cycle that we all have gone through to > > get > >>> to > >>>>> our > >>>>>>> current spot. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The main reason we tend to hate these people is we feel > > embarrassed > >>> for > >>>>> when > >>>>>>> we were that stupid. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Everybody here has done this stuff at one time or another. It is > >>>>> essentially a > >>>>>>> form of being a toddler in the world of game design. Whether we > > did > >>>>> this > >>>>> at > >>>>>>> the age of five, or at the age of sixteen (oh dear sweet merciless > >>>>> Eris, > >>>>> was I > >>>>>>> bad for this when I was sixteen), or into your mid twenties--some > >>>>> people > >>>>> are > >>>>>>> in this stage in their fourties and fifties. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now, you can generally frown, and dislike that the toddler is > >>>>> there--due > >>>>> to > >>>>>>> your own embarrassment from the days where we all did the same > >>> thing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Which I think reeks of immaturity, BTW. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Or you can change these toddlers' diapers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> One reek or the other people. I have chosen mine--and it is one > >>> that a > >>>>> few > >>>>>>> tend to have issues agreeing. I can understand this. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, I know I am wrong (oh damn--have I been wrong lots)... the > >>> thing > >>>>> is... we > >>>>>>> are all just fvcking this up as we go along. Especially the > >>> successful > >>>>> people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nothing to see here, citizens. Move along. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2010/7/26 Katrina Payne <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Well the signature appeared to be for "Neuvo Hotmail". That is > >>>>>>>>> neuvohotmail.com . > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Which does not strike me as any name any spanish hotmail > > service > >>>>> would > >>>>>>> ever > >>>>>>>>> think to use. Neuvo translates roughly to "no go", > >>> "nonexistant", > >>>>>>>>> "nothing", > >>>>>>>>> "nada", "not there". > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yeah, and I will give you on the LAN version being the only > >>> current > >>>>> real > >>>>>>>>> reason. I said a few times that I considered the other reasons > >>> to > >>> be > >>>>>>>>> entirely > >>>>>>>>> fictional at the current time. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Even to the point of the ridiculous comparison to C'thulhu and > >>>>> Activision > >>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>> the only reason that the others could work. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Though, I am very leery of believing most of the countries said > >>> to > >>>>> be > >>>>> high > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> piracy really are. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> As well, Canada is currently in that list of countries with > >>> large > >>>>> amounts > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> software piracy. Which really makes sense as well some > > companies > >>> are > >>>>>>> trying > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> push we get treated, for shipping and what not, much like how > >>> the > >>>>> USA > >>>>>>>>> treats > >>>>>>>>> trade with China, Russia and Cuba--it is there, but frowned > >>> upon. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> However, I dunno--if he really was a Latin Pirate, using a > >>> Spanish > >>>>> Hotmail > >>>>>>>>> that for some reason was locally called "not there hotmail", I > >>> doubt > >>>>> he > >>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>> ask the official list for a way to help. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I dunno--and again... the lack of confirmation of the OP makes > >>> this > >>>>> just > >>>>>>>>> seem > >>>>>>>>> like an even more ridiculous troll. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> However, not going to take the chance it is not, and help him, > >>> if > >>> he > >>>>>>>>> requires > >>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Oh and defend my own pride--or something silly like that. Or at > >>>>> least > >>>>>>>>> explain > >>>>>>>>> why I am thinking silly stuff. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 25, 2010 09:17:23 pm ZuM wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Well about the situation you said the lan party is the only > >>> reason > >>>>> i > >>>>>>>>> believe > >>>>>>>>>> someone would use the Won version :P > >>>>>>>>>> Or to pirate the game, because if you look you can find > >>> several > >>>>> pirate > >>>>>>>>>> servers, specially in countries with a very high level of > >>> piracy > >>>>> like > >>>>>>>>> Brasil > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Also Katrina you mentioned about hotmail, the service is > >>> localized > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> available in a lot of countries, like Argentina, Spain, > > etc... > >>> but > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> adress is always .com only, just like in Gmail, and that > >>> signature > >>>>> is > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> localized version for some country :P > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/25 Katrina Payne <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, in my situation, I do not have a computer that could > >>>>> comfortably > >>>>>>>>> run > >>>>>>>>>>> either OS Steam is released for. If I could afford it, I > >>> would > >>>>> get > >>>>> an > >>>>>>>>> Apple > >>>>>>>>>>> computer and get the games on that system. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I really do not understand windows enough to really run it. > >>> As > >>>>> well-- > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>> different paradigm of sorts, and I have long since learned > >>> that > >>>>> it > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> not a > >>>>>>>>>>> bad > >>>>>>>>>>> OS, I just really have no clue how to get it to function. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> However, in the two situations presented here, I win the > >>> lottery > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>>> buying Apple products or Steam is released on Linux, I > > would > >>> pay > >>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> games > >>>>>>>>>>> that I enjoy. Even if they are not on sale. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Though, the really odd thing is: Valve seems wary of > >>> releasing > >>>>> on > >>>>>>> Linux > >>>>>>>>> due > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> one of the reasons of "people on Linux want stuff for free". > >>>>> Though > >>>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>>>>> Linux > >>>>>>>>>>> users are more anal than me, about paying for stuff. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Then on Windows when I cannot afford a piece of software, I > >>> get > >>>>> a > >>>>> nice > >>>>>>>>> loud > >>>>>>>>>>> choir chorus of, "just get it cracked" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Meh--I dunno. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There are reasons to have a nonSteam Half Life Mod. Most of > >>> them > >>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>> hypothetical, and are not looking like they will happen in > >>> the > >>>>> near > >>>>>>>>> future. > >>>>>>>>>>> Then we have the one that people at LAN parties, or run > >>> their > >>>>> systems > >>>>>>>>>>> standalone every now and again tend to complain about: if > >>> they > >>>>> cannot > >>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>> outside their immediate network, the game no longer > >>> functions. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So, while I can understand the OP's rationale for wanting a > >>>>> nonSteam > >>>>>>>>>>> Halflife > >>>>>>>>>>> Mod if it follows a very legal sense. I am still aware that > >>>>> there > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>> reason to doubt that the OP has considered these reasons > >>> than > >>>>> there > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> think he is using them. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The thing is: this is looking more and more like a troll > >>> post, > >>>>> without > >>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>>> further update from the OP. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> And well, considering we have had a few recent posts that > >>> were > >>>>> along > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> lines > >>>>>>>>>>> of "testing" and that Gmail invite (thank goodness! Those > >>> are > >>> so > >>>>> rare > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> hollowed~!)... I am starting to think that this may have > >>> been a > >>>>> troll. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Which has largely resulted in me, and a few others, > >>> preaching > >>> to > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> choir > >>>>>>>>>>> about various subject matters present. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Meh, usually it is at this point the OP comes in, to try to > >>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>> was not a troll post, or something. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 25, 2010 05:23:03 pm Harry Jeffery wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> I pay for things that are fairly priced. That means all > >>> valve > >>>>> games, > >>>>>>>>>>>> indie games and games that are on sale in steam. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 July 2010 00:14, Katrina Payne > >>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah--I really do not agree with software piracy. I > > tend > >>> to > >>>>> be > >>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>>> anal > >>>>>>>>>>>>> myself with any agreements and contracts are signed. > >>> People > >>>>> who > >>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>> credit > >>>>>>>>>>>>> due get it and all. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This was why I listed a few hypothetical situations > >>> where a > >>>>>>> cracked > >>>>>>>>>>> game > >>>>>>>>>>> may > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be needed to work without it being for the wrong > >>>>> reasons--and > >>>>> one > >>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared a few times (the LAN one). > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Though, the only way most of those would work, is if > >>>>> Activision > >>>>>>>>> bought > >>>>>>>>>>> Valve-- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or some other similar occurrence that best fits in a > >>> pulp > >>>>> horror > >>>>>>>>>>> novelette > >>>>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this mailing list. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> And like I said: even if he did get to a point where he > >>>>> could > >>>>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>>> work... it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would never get in any real direction. Would not work > >>> quite > >>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>> effectively > >>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be a lot harder to arrange than if he just simply did > >>> one > >>>>> that > >>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>> (for > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> current moment) do stuff with the Steam Halflife. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and seeing as how I am looking to join the Pirate > >>> Party > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> Canada, > >>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be best to note, that I, and most other people > > involved, > >>>>> frown > >>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going, "Pirates?! OMG! FREE CRAP!" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I tend to spend more on movies, music and games > > than > >>>>> most > >>>>>>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>> who > >>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not follow these ideas. If anything, since looking into > >>>>> Piracy, > >>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> tend > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> MORE anal about making certain developers, artists and > >>> the > >>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>> responsible > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for their works gets what they are owed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just do not like really invasive copy protection > >>> schemes > >>>>> and > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary > >>>>>>>>>>>>> control of the exchange of cultural and information. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I however think that the people who worked hard on this > >>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>> paid > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it, and should be able to eat, have shelter and all > >>> that > >>>>> other > >>>>>>>>> fine > >>>>>>>>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that paying them is suppose to give them. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> And I am not alone in my views of how this stuff works. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 25, 2010 04:47:17 pm Jonathan Murphy > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cracked versions of Half-Life/Source games used to > > (are > >>>>> still?) > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> called Non-Steam distributions because you didn't need > >>> to > >>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> Steam > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed to play them, they instead were distributed > >>> with > >>>>> hacked > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> binaries that tricked the game into thinking it was > >>> being > >>>>>>> launched > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Steam. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only limitation to making a mod that works with > >>>>> Non-Steam > >>>>>>>>> distros > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be having the correct version of the source to > >>> build > >>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>> hl.dll/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.dll. Which might be fairly difficult to find. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as encouragement of piracy is not condoned on this > >>> list > >>>>> I'd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine you won't find a lot of help here anyway. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/07/2010, at 1:16 PM, Katrina Payne > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 24, 2010 04:44:19 pm Jonas > > 'Sortie' > >>>>> Termansen > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find it ammusing that you follow the trend and > >>> use a > >>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated vocabulary as well which will probably > >>>>> leave > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> op > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused when he runs this through google > >>> translate. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ifdef __INTELLIGENCE__ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just wrap my posts in ifdefs if I don't want some > >>>>> people > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> read > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I don't want anybody to read them at all, > > I > >>>>> encode > >>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EBCDIC. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #endif > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think this guy even has a codebase, at > > least > >>>>> that's > >>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand his post, that he is looking for a > >>> Non-Steam > >>>>>>>>> Half-Life > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SDK. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He sounds like he is able to make Steam-based > >>> Half-Life > >>>>> mods > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found some Non-Steam mods, and that he is now > >>> confused > >>>>> how > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though, this HL.dll thing sounds weird to me. Do we > >>> have > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> source > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > >>> the > >>>>> list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ifdef __INTELLIGENCE__ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extern "Geek Humour" { > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well you can always encode them in preISO ASCII-7. > >>> Maybe > >>>>> also > >>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translated to 1337 speak based Aremaic, with a few > >>> items > >>>>>>>>> demostrated > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only via > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perl 4 base Jephs (that is, "pretty" code, sometimes > >>>>> ASCII > >>>>> Art > >>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essentially does nothing when ran), then encrypted > >>> using > >>>>>>>>> Megatoyko's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schedule for your key. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }; > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #endif > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair. Half Life DOES kind of predate Steam. He > >>> may > >>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> found > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items and elements that were done with Half Life > >>> prior > >>> to > >>>>>>>>> Steam's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means he does not have to worry about quite as > >>>>> strict > >>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>> copy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection scheme. Which has been one of Steam's > >>> biggest > >>>>>>>>> complaints. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mostly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for games, that lock out, if they cannot talk with a > >>>>> Steam > >>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are okay for it. Which does kind of suck, if > > you > >>> are > >>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> able > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to talk to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steam on the current computer you are on. Be it for > >>> Valve > >>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under, or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valve shutting down Steam--but not continuing > > certain > >>>>> loved > >>>>>>>>> games > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that used > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this copy protection scheme or you are doing a LAN > >>> party > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> sorts. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though a con is that he would also be using an > >>>>> excessively > >>>>> OLD > >>>>>>>>> code > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We also have a few people that mentioned in the > >>>>> hlds_linux > >>>>>>>>> mailing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a project to make a Source Workalike that can get > >>> mods > >>>>> that > >>>>> do > >>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use Valve > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properties in them (such as models, gadgets and what > >>> not) > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without Half > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life 2. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though my understanding was that the Source > > Workalike > >>> to > >>>>> run > >>>>>>>>> Mods > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that do not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain Valve IP in them (that is, taking models and > >>> what > >>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Half Life > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1, Half Life 2, Half Life Episodes, TF, TFC, CS, > >>> CS:S, > >>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>>> Shift., > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc., > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc., etc) was only still, at the very most in an > >>> Alpha > >>>>> state, > >>>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage of things. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So--there could be a few things that he COULD be > >>> trying > >>>>> to > >>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonSteam > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Half Life Mod run... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just chances are, if he can get them to run--he > > could > >>> not > >>>>> get > >>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run well > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any way. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Katrina > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Gear Dev > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
