Beta updates make sense for dedicated-server-only fixes... however just about every patch also includes balance and/or client-affecting fixes - you can't test them with a server beta test
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:hlds- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Keeper > Sent: 01 October 2009 18:37 > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available > > Why should they? They have a way to let server operators and players > update > almost instantaneously. With the way the steam platform works, we > become > their unpaid QA group. It is a headache for GSPs as well as individual > server operators, but is anybody losing money over it? If not, then I > can > see why they would be hesitant to change their business model. > > Look at it this way, and I know a lot of people are different, I bought > HL2DM when it first came out. I haven't purchased another steam game > since > then. Yet I still play that game every night. Valve isn't making any > money > off of me. They don't make any money off the server operators either. > > Personally, I think it's a horrible way to do business ... but that > would be > more from a pride standpoint than a business model. > > Keeper > -----Original Message----- > From: SmOoThEm [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:04 PM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available > > In response to Violent Crimes and his post: > > This has been a major complaint for years now, valve makes all kinds of > changes and must release multi patches to fix the original patch all at > the > expense of the server owners. I'm glad we all have nothing better to do > but > update and troubleshoot valves broken patch updates all night long. > It's > become a regular routine fighting just to get our servers online let > alone > worry about sourcemod or plugin issues because of changes and updates > nobody > was prepared for. They remove cvars, change gameplay, introduce bugs, > and > piss a lot of people off every update with the slew of problems that > always > seem to follow. > Once again I make my own plea, I would recommend you guys do the same. > > PLEASE VALVE, GIVE US BETA TESTING! > > You do so for steam client updates and such, it could be done for other > products too. > Give the server owners a break, allow us the chance to test updates and > changes to FIND your bugs before it hits the masses and creates major > problems. > > SmOoThEm > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
