Well, ads are part of the union, if you like it or not. Not saying those
people can go to hell (right now), but transparency is why quickplay
exists and lack of transparency is why community gameplay is excluded.
I've heard a lot of people saying I can go screw myself because the
players can choose if they want to join their server and consume ads or
not. (On this very list) Well, let them.
But yes, current quickplay restrictions are also about popups and motd
abusing as you can read in the article. So yeah, if your motd would be
so loud it would physically hurt my ears, get it fixed. lol (Or these
caffeine ads with the shock moments, but on roids)
On 19.12.2015 03:43, Cats From Above wrote:
I agree with Matthias regarding the 80/20 rule. If we put this
situation into DreamWorks parlance and remember he film Shrek, what
we're dealing with here is an onion and onions have layers. Obviously,
the token system is not a silver bullet and that was the point in my
highlighting the inherent weaknesses of that system. This doesn't mean
that the token system should be discarded, but rather, we should also
discuss other feasible ways of preventing and detecting servers
violating Valve's rules to help bolster the overall solution. Some may
have forgotten that is was the actions of a minority of servers that
got community servers relegated to the background in the first place -
If what community owners have to say is believed. To leave room for a
minority to get away with doing the wrong thing this time around is, I
fear, to invite the same end result in the future.
Further, I would simply point out that no one is suggesting in the
present conversation that Valve wants to kill community servers
entirely. Now, my views on that are well known, but it's not an
argument I'm peddling right here and now. Hence perhaps we could
refrain from edging on the verges of hyperbole. And again,
surreptitiously blurring this discussion into one about the validity
of using advertisements to fund servers and what notice should be
given thereof is not helpful top the topic of discussion. I'm pretty
sure that if I had a loud and obnoxious video intro to my community on
my servers MOTD, Matthias would not expect my server to be tagged as
"loudandannoyingmotdstaythef***away" - Hence his issue with
advertising is not the fact adverts make sound, but rather the fact
that it's a funding source for communities other than his own.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
<proph...@sticed.org <mailto:proph...@sticed.org>> wrote:
I get your concern, but with reasonable limitations this should
follow the 80/20 rule.
If you want a perfect solution for every single possible offense
and catch every sneaky sob then life really isn't for you.
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