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-Mike On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected]>wrote: > > We talk about Counter-Strike, not CSS. So, why the server was running fine > before this update? > Why a TF2 server is running fine on the same machine with time drifts and > showing the message? > Why a CSS server is running fine on the same machine with time drifts and > showing the message? > Why a DOD:S server is running fine on the same machine with time drifts and > showing the message? > Why a L4D server is running fine on the same machine with time drifts and > showing the message? > Why a COD4 server is running fine on the same machine with time drifts? > > Could it be a problem with the CS 1.6 update? > > > > You are missing the point. Clock drift is not just "the time is wrong". > > The "clock" is just a timing mechanism for the kernel, and when this is > > changed drastically (1 second) it can do all sorts of weird things, in > > your case locking up some resource/clock-intensive software (a > > high-tickrate CSS server). > > > > Just because an application freezes doesn't mean it's the application > > with the problem. There is more to an operating system than point and > > click. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > Shane Arnold - [email protected] > > > > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the > > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of > a > > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered > > message the war was lost." > > > > > > > > Ronny Schedel wrote: > >> If hlds would work in this way, it would be a serious design flaw. > >> Imagine > >> what happens when the time change for daylight saving time occurs. The > >> time > >> went back 60 minutes! Believe, it does not need to stop when a time > drift > >> occurs, HL2/OB based servers can handle such a time drift without > >> stopping > >> the server. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Because time/ticks is how the game server knows what players did in the > >>> last > >>> second, and how to predict for the next second of gameplay (at a very > >>> high > >>> level). > >>> > >>> The error is serious enough to warrant stopping the server - if they > >>> removed > >>> this error message, your next complaint would be that the game begins > to > >>> suffer horrible prediction/lag every time this message would have > >>> appeared. > >>> > >>> The error message is just a symptom of the bigger problem (your clock > is > >>> drifting too much too quickly). I would research further in to why you > >>> are > >>> having this time sync problem (maybe the ntp server you are using is > >>> lousy? > >>> Try another - or maybe even try and update the clock more often before > >>> it > >>> gets too out of sync). > >>> > >>> - Andrew > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronny > >>> Schedel > >>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:55 PM > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available > >>> > >>> > >>> Why a server has to stop working when the time went back 1 second? Yes, > >>> because it is a bug in the hlds update. And yes, they will fix it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Lo0l Valve don't need to fix anything, that you have time drift on > your > >>>> server and use ntp to correct it is your problem not valves. Either > >>>> disable > >>>> ntp or reboot the server with the stock kernel as your high tic kernel > >>>> is > >>>> causing your drift. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronny > >>>> Schedel > >>>> Sent: 16 July 2009 14:31 > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I reverted the binaries back to the previuos version and it runs fine. > >>>> So > >>>> Valve has time to fix it, because this update is optional. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> What he said, it's much easier for you to disable the NTP service > than > >>>>> it is to wait for another CS1.6 update. Unless there is something > >>>>> hellishly wrong with your server you shouldn't need NTP anyway. > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, > >>>>> the > >>>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want > >>>>> of > >>>>> a > >>>>> > >>>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered > >>>>> message the war was lost." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [email protected] wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Remove the ntp service, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Ronny > >>>>>> Schedel > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:02 PM > >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't care what happens, the fact is the server stops and does not > >>>>>> respond > >>>>>> > >>>>>> after this. I get these messages also in HL2/OB based servers and > >>>>>> they > >>>>>> run > >>>>>> without any problem. So we need a fix for this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looks like ntp drift to me, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Must be running high ticrate? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>> Ronny > >>>>>>> Schedel > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 8:52 PM > >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is a seriuos problem with this update, the server stops after > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> message: > >>>>>>> Warning: system time went backward by 1 seconds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now > >>>>>>>> available. > >>>>>>>> Please run hldsupdatetool to receive. This update was previously > >>>>>>>> available as a beta. The specific changes are: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Half-Life Engine > >>>>>>>> - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced > override > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> ticrate > >>>>>>>> - Prevent more cases of server redirection > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> CS/CZ > >>>>>>>> - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jason > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
