I think it's a great idea that Valve should think about giving to us server owners. We deserve that :)
Best regards Oskar Levin [email protected] -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] För Andrew Caron Skickat: den 3 januari 2012 19:05 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] please lock maxplayers Couldnt you just set the max players on the start line and nothing can change that. If you try to change it with rcon it says this needs to be changed with the start line, same with the autoexec.cfg. 2012/1/3 Andre Müller <[email protected]> > You can run a rented server with more slots you have paid for. But > this is a provider problem not my problem...not valves problem > > You're right > > 2012/1/3 1nsane <[email protected]> > > > How could this be abused in a way that valve would care? > > > > You can't change maxplayers past the hardcoded limit. So you can't > > run a server with 128 players. > > > > It can't be abused... > > > > 2012/1/3 Andre Müller <[email protected]> > > > > > It's a funny thing. Maybe this need more to abuse, before valve is > > willing > > > to do something. > > > To use plugins is another thing. There are some more evil things > > > you > can > > do > > > with serverplugins :-D > > > > > > 2012/1/3 1nsane <[email protected]> > > > > > > > These solutions are borderline useless. If someone wants to > > > > increase > > > their > > > > maxplayers without paying they will find a way. > > > > There's plugins that do this on running servers so your aliases > > > > won't > > do > > > > anything against that. > > > > > > > > In fact you don't even need a plugin to change maxplayers on a > running > > > > server. > > > > > > > > Simply do: > > > > rcon disconnect > > > > rcon maxplayers 64 > > > > rcon map cs_office > > > > > > > > It is a non issue and nothing that Valve should worry about. > > > > It's > > rather > > > > something that game hosts and game panel developers should look into. > > > > I know TCadmin had a maxplayers monitoring feature years ago, so > others > > > > should too. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Valve "locks" it, someone will just release a plugin that > > > > unlocks > it > > > :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/1/3 Andre Müller <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Participants in this list who have no idea should be better > > > > > not > > comment > > > > on > > > > > the issue. > > > > > I'm not a provider, so this is not my fucking problem. The > > autoexec.cfg > > > > is > > > > > a useful file. People who say to prevent access to the > > > > > autoexec.cfg > > > > doent's > > > > > know how the sourceengine works and I think they don't have > > > > > any > > > > customers. > > > > > Monitoring is at the moment one solution. Other solution is to > > > > > add > > one > > > > line > > > > > to the top of valve.rc: > > > > > > > > > > alias "maxplayers" "Forbidden Cvar" > > > > > > > > > > With some FTP rules you can prevent the access to the valve.rc. > > > Providers > > > > > should know how to wrtie this rules. Other way is to prevent > > > > > access > > > with > > > > > chattr +i valve.rc on ext filesystems. There are some other > > > > > funny > > > things > > > > > you can do with simple plugins to override the FTP. So don't > > > > > think > > > that a > > > > > simple trick with chmod and forbidding chmod works. > > > > > > > > > > I think it is the best way when valve locks -maxplayers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/1/3 Eric Riemers <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > If they change it, just charge more.. put it in that "thing > > > > > > that > > > > nobody > > > > > > reads when they say agree" ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > > > > > Of > > > Asher > > > > > > Baker > > > > > > Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2012 12:41 > > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] please lock maxplayers > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, monitoring and disabling malicious customers is the > > > > > > best > > > > solution. > > > > > > There are plenty of ways to change maxplayers. > > > > > > > > > > > > autoexec.cfg has plenty of legitimate uses. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 Jan 2012, at 11:35, Drogen Viech < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a total newbie at linux, but couldn't you have > > > > > > > crownjobs > > > running, > > > > > > > querying servers and sending e-mails to customer support > > > > > > > if > > > customers > > > > > > > changed maxplayers to something too high? Just saying, > chmodding > > > > > > > autoexec.cfg to 444 and disallowing chmod is the better > solution > > of > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/1/3 Ulrich Block <[email protected]>: > > > > > > >> Also you can move, chmod and edit files with > > > > > > >> serveplugins. It > is > > > not > > > > > > >> hard to replace a file with antother using sourcemod. To > prevent > > > > such > > > > > > >> a behavior the user also should not be able to change the > chmod. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Am 03.01.2012 10:00, schrieb Emil Larsson: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Yup, you can probably just simple do "chmod 444 autoexec.cfg" > > and > > > > > > >>> it's basically solved. Or "chmod 744 autoexec.cfg" and > > > > > > >>> then > > > change > > > > > > >>> ownership with chown to someone that isn't the "customer". > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I admit though, autoexec.cfg is a useful configuration > > > > > > >>> to > edit > > so > > > > > > >>> it's probably better still to be able to lock the > > > > > > >>> playercount > > if > > > > you > > > > > > >>> lease servers. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 2012/1/3 Björn Rohlén<[email protected]> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> ...or just don't let your customers edit autoexec.cfg? > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> 2012/1/3 Andre Müller<[email protected]> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>> You can change the cvar maxplayers before the game starts. > > > > > > >>>>> When you put this two lines in your autoexec.cfg the > > maxplayers > > > > > > >>>>> cvar is overwritten and fixed (tested with css): > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> maxplayers 64 > > > > > > >>>>> map de_dust > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Maybe Valve can lock maxplayers, when it is set with > > -maxplyers > > > > in > > > > > > >>>>> the start command. > > > > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > > > > > > >>>>> the > list > > > > > > >>>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_lin > > > > ux > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > > >>>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_lin > > > > ux > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > > >>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > > >>> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > > >> list archives, please visit: > > > > > > >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > > > list > > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_l > > > > > inux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_lin > > > > ux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ---------------------------------------------- www.hostedgameservers.com The everything guy You don't have a game server until its hosted! _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
