On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:02:23 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would suggest that you decline the request and say that since CA-1
"interacts" and is IBM module dependent it is in the best interest of
all parties to be in a deliverable state which facilitates IBM
maintenance.

I know its been a while and my memory could be incomplete. I vaguely remember that UCC-1 (CA-1) replaced the IBM modules OMODVOL1 and maybe EMODVOL1. That was not reflected in SMPE zones. Its a mute point as IIRC UCC1 (ca-1) dropped support for NSL labels a while ago. The zaps for O/C /E weren't either (again IIRC) those weren't reflected in the CSI. I have understood from others on the list here that UCC-1 (CA-1) had gotten their act together on the SMPe side. But at least one person commented on here that the started to backslide. Since I am no longer in the support for UCC-1 side my knowledge has aged and has been outdated by several years. I will depend on the group here to keep us updated on the real competence level of the support (SMPe) wise of CA-1.

I have lauded CA-1 support for their SMPe support in the recent past. I may have to retract that if I hear from others that they are slipping backwards.

BTW the debugging staff at CA-1 IMO is fairly good as CA support goes. I have heard less criticism of them than the rest of CA so that is always a good sign.

Ed




It has been a long time since I did anything with CA-1, but I don't remember it ever having IFREQs on IBM maintenance, or even going into the same zone or belonging to Z038. Unless I am mistaken, Ed's comment doesn't apply.

All it takes to nullify the advantages of an SMP/E installation is *one*
request from the vendor to apply service with BYPASS(ID).

That said, my preference has generally been for an SMP/E install, provided that it is done correctly. This is no trivial matter, and as Mark pointed out. Innovation does a fine job without it. I wouldn't ask them to divert
resources from product development to provide proper SMP/E packaging.

Tom Marchant

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