So do we.

And I wonder what the actual problem is? If the DFDSS dump dataset has such a 
special (internal) format, that FTP cannot always handle it correctly, why can 
AMATERSE do this without problems? 

If it FTP only, what is the special problem for FTP? What other dataset formats 
are a problem for FTP?

Questions, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt...

Kees.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: 06 November 2019 16:11
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

I have always FTP a DFDSS dump of "things"  - What I was told to do long ago 
and far away was to include BLKSIZE=32760 on the dump file in DFDSS.

This has never caused an issue (DFDSS ignores the Blksize).  And my Transfer 
have (knock wood) not failed.  And I have always been able to restore from the 
DFDSS dump.


Lizette


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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 8:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another
> 
> Can you point to where that is documented?
> We FTP a lot b.m.o. DFDSS between Sysplexes.
> 
> Kees.
> 
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> On Behalf Of Tom Conley
> Sent: 06 November 2019 15:46
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> Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another
> 
> On 11/5/2019 6:54 PM, Jousma, David wrote:
> > Terse, dont terse, your call.  I have 100% reliability as long as 
> > the
> destination disk dataset for the ftp is newly created.  If the 
> destination dataset already exists, then yes, there have been problems.
> >
> > As you mention there are some specific options on the transfer to 
> > specify,
> and as long as you do, it will work fine.
> >
> > Sending the dump file outside the company, probably not bad idea to 
> > terse
> since we are all familiar with it.
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> > On 11/5/2019 3:11 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
> >> I always terse the dump file too. Had issues with Restore if the 
> >> file wasn't  tersed.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 03:53 Pierre Fichaud <pr...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dave,
> >>>           I'll do that. The files are not big.
> >>>           They can be sent as ZIP files.
> >>> Thanks, Pierre
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> > Wayne beat me to it.  Terse any DFDSS file before sending.  You may 
> > get away with DFDSS with mode block and EBCDIC.  Until you don't.
> > Terse it for 100% reliability.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Conley
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> 
> Dave,
> 
> For over a year, I FTP'd a DFDSS dump of my IODF file to every LPAR 
> that needed it.  Worked fine, until it didn't.  IBM's response to the 
> PMR that I opened is that the only 100% reliable way to FTP a DFDSS 
> dump file was to terse it first.  IBM does not support direct FTP of a 
> DFDSS dump file.  So I now terse every DFDSS dump file before FTPing 
> it to other systems, and I haven't had another failure in 6 years.  As 
> I said, it will work until it doesn't.
> 
> Regards,
> Tom Conley
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