O.k.,

It sounds like you just didn't explain it very well initially.  The spammer
does not have any affiliation with you, the spam itself doesn't point to a
domain that you are hosting, etc...Right?


Jason


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL


> I can do the same thing to you too actually.
>
> I can register a domain, use you as the domain admin.
>
> Then spam from a different network and your mail server will be
blacklisted
> until you get your name off the record.
>
> You had nothing to do with the spamming and you have no control in
stopping
> the spamming but even worse you don't control any aspect of this. You can
> only demand that the registrar removes you from the record and that will
> take days to get done for sure.
>
> Does not sound reasonable to me and I surprise it does to you.
>
> H.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason @ AreaTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
>
>
> > Actually, you do.  If you are hosting a spammer's site, and they use
> > another
> > method to transmit spam, YOU (as seen) can/will get blacklisted.  It's
> > that
> > simple.  It's like saying you are harboring terrorist training camps,
but
> > they don't launch attacks from your soil, they walk to another country
and
> > do it.  You are still going to be a target.
> >
> > Sorry for all of the Terrorist references. :)
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
> >
> >
> >> But that's my point.
> >>
> >> We do not give a safe haven as you describe it.
> >> We do not tolerate it but we do not control it.
> >>
> >> If they have a domain that they are hosting here, spam somewhere else
and
> >> use one of their accounts here as admin contact for the domain we have
no
> >> clue that they do and we cant stop them from doing so.
> >>
> >> If we terminate them as customers it will not change anything, the
record
> > is
> >> still the same email address unless they change it and we can't control
> > that
> >> part.
> >>
> >> I find that unreasonable that we are being held responsible for
something
> >> out of our control without any warning even.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Jason @ AreaTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:46 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
> >>
> >>
> >> >I guess the moral of the story is that if you give safe haven to
> > terrorists
> >> > (spammers), you run the risk of being blacklisted.  I guess you have
a
> >> > choice to make.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:20 PM
> >> > Subject: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I find this to be a little crazy.
> >> >
> >> > We just got blacklisted by SBL because the email address for the
admin
> >> > contact for a spammer is hosted here.
> >> >
> >> > The domain is not hosted here,
> >> > They are not using our dns servers.
> >> > They are not using our mail server.
> >> > They are not using our network.
> >> > No spam came from here.
> >> >
> >> > The only connection to us is that the admin email is hosted here.
> >> >
> >> > We have no control over this but yet we got black listed.
> >> > Even if we terminate them as a client and they do not move their
domain
> >> > somewhere else we will still be punished for something we have no
> > control
> >> > over.
> >> >
> >> > I find this to be a little bit overzealous.
> >> >
> >> > Comments please..
> >> >
> >> > H
> >> >
> >> >
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