Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL

[i360, Inc]

The only thing that is point to us is one of the contact emails on the 
domain name record with their registrar.

My client did not even know that the 3rd party used the email address.
However, they know the 3rd party.  (political campaign of some sort the 
owner of the company is supporting).

My problem with this is that I can have your mail server blacklisted without 
you even knowing and me not even being a client of yours.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason @ AreaTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL


O.k.,
It sounds like you just didn't explain it very well initially.  The 
spammer
does not have any affiliation with you, the spam itself doesn't point to a
domain that you are hosting, etc...Right?

Jason
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL


I can do the same thing to you too actually.
I can register a domain, use you as the domain admin.
Then spam from a different network and your mail server will be
blacklisted
until you get your name off the record.
You had nothing to do with the spamming and you have no control in
stopping
the spamming but even worse you don't control any aspect of this. You can
only demand that the registrar removes you from the record and that will
take days to get done for sure.
Does not sound reasonable to me and I surprise it does to you.
H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason @ AreaTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL

> Actually, you do.  If you are hosting a spammer's site, and they use
> another
> method to transmit spam, YOU (as seen) can/will get blacklisted.  It's
> that
> simple.  It's like saying you are harboring terrorist training camps,
but
> they don't launch attacks from your soil, they walk to another country
and
> do it.  You are still going to be a target.
>
> Sorry for all of the Terrorist references. :)
>
>
> Jason
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
>
>
>> But that's my point.
>>
>> We do not give a safe haven as you describe it.
>> We do not tolerate it but we do not control it.
>>
>> If they have a domain that they are hosting here, spam somewhere else
and
>> use one of their accounts here as admin contact for the domain we have
no
>> clue that they do and we cant stop them from doing so.
>>
>> If we terminate them as customers it will not change anything, the
record
> is
>> still the same email address unless they change it and we can't 
>> control
> that
>> part.
>>
>> I find that unreasonable that we are being held responsible for
something
>> out of our control without any warning even.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jason @ AreaTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
>>
>>
>> >I guess the moral of the story is that if you give safe haven to
> terrorists
>> > (spammers), you run the risk of being blacklisted.  I guess you have
a
>> > choice to make.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jason
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "i360, Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:20 PM
>> > Subject: [IMail Forum] Blacklisted by SBL
>> >
>> >
>> > I find this to be a little crazy.
>> >
>> > We just got blacklisted by SBL because the email address for the
admin
>> > contact for a spammer is hosted here.
>> >
>> > The domain is not hosted here,
>> > They are not using our dns servers.
>> > They are not using our mail server.
>> > They are not using our network.
>> > No spam came from here.
>> >
>> > The only connection to us is that the admin email is hosted here.
>> >
>> > We have no control over this but yet we got black listed.
>> > Even if we terminate them as a client and they do not move their
domain
>> > somewhere else we will still be punished for something we have no
> control
>> > over.
>> >
>> > I find this to be a little bit overzealous.
>> >
>> > Comments please..
>> >
>> > H
>> >
>> >
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