Janab Aleey ,
If it happens then it will be a good thing , as all illegal things should
vanish from this
country . Don't you see how present government is striving hard to remove
all illegal weapons
from the country . I am sure government will reward those who volunteer
spent money and their time to get the illegal things removed from the
country .It will set a precedent for the others to
follow the same foot steps .
"Lets make Pakistan free from all illegal activates ,laws and businesses
A heaven on earth where there is law and justice "
Best Regards
Saad Saleem
----- Original Message -----
From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official meeting
of ISPAK
>
> But if we prove that the royalty is illegal in court, won't the mobile
> operators be able to prove the same in the court and get refund from the
> GOP ???
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nasir.
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
>
> > Our case is different from Mobile Operators . We have not been given any
> > Monopoly status like Mobile Operators have been given (Only 4 are
allowed to
> > operate ). There are more than 157 EIS licenses and more are coming ,
there
> > is no ban on new one's .So no similarity between us and Mobile operators
.
> >
> > Secondly , Internet business is like other businesses , why Govt Will
double
> > Tax us ?
> >
> > Telecom Act 1996 was prepared and approved by the Govt . And it clearly
says
> > "PTA will collect funds for its operation and will also get grants from
> > Federal Budget to the tune of Money / funds it requires to function . So
> > there is no question of collecting funds in excess cost of regulation .
> >
> > By the way Telecom Act 1996 is protected by Privatization Act . Which
> > prohibits any amendments in the Telecom Act 1996 till the privatization
and
> > the Monopoly period of PTCL .
> >
> > Well its better to consult some lawyer who can explain the above issues
> > better than me .
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Saad Saleem
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official
meeting
> > of ISPAK
> >
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > > 5) Why a few people are forcing the whole of industry to pay some
thing
> > which is totally illegal ???
> > >
> > >
> > > I just want to tell every one what one of our good friend told us. He
> > > said that the mobile operators have paid a very high amount to GOP in
the
> > > terms of royalty. IF the royalty is proved to be illegal in the court,
> > > then the GOP will have to return that amount to the operators.
> > >
> > > Do you all sincerely beleive that the government / country who is
> > > desperatly in need of cash will allow a huge amount to be taken from
their
> > > pockets ??? A simple PCO or ordinance will be issued and the Telecome
Act
> > > will be ammended. Royalty will become legal and we all will be in a
very
> > > difficult position then we are now, as then we will have no friends
and we
> > > will still have to pay the money.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Nasir.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Those who do not have business (Internet )should refrain from
> > participating in it .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Royalty will be challenged in the High Court within 3 days from now
and
> > Inshallah and therefore its very logical to hold and conduct meetings at
> > various cities of Pakistan to make all members understand .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > Saad Saleem
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: sbhutta
> > > > To: Malik Razaq
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
official
> > meeting of ISPAK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr.Razaq Sahib,
> > > > AoA,
> > > > Are you aware of the back ground ?. It is right of each member of
> > ISPAK to be elected as president of ISPAK but through constitutional
> > procedure.
> > > >
> > > > For your kind information please see the following mail which
will
> > clear the position and aims and objective of Mr.Imran Akhtar Shah, He
> > desires to be president pf ISPAK through back door, We have called
meeting
> > on 10th July 2001 for election and other issues. I hope you have came to
> > know why I was not in Lahore meeting.
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Bhutta
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 16:18
> > > > To: nadeem
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Saad Saleem; Ansar ul
> > Haque
> > > > Subject: Re: Elections
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Nadeem,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I differ here. Mr. Bhutta should be relieved as President
> > ISPAK forthwith. And new setup as proposed by me come forward take
charge.
> > Mr. Bhutta was given enough time to avoid this eventuality but he did
not
> > understand. He damaged all our efforts of unity and the recent damage he
has
> > done you were witness to that. (Our Meeting with MOST)
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, he is no more President ISPAK. Same has been
communicated
> > to MOST & PTCL/PTA. If you and Ansar do not agree please take a back
seat
> > and we will then take care of ISPAK affairs.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Imran
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 02:39 PM 6/6/01 +0500, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Imran,
> > > >
> > > > If you really want the election to be held, I propose to go
along
> > by me. Do not suggest anything else. Let my idea of the election
committee
> > taking the lead role work. Other things will happen automatically.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Bhutta
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Malik Razaq
> > > > To: sbhutta
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:53 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
official
> > meeting of ISPAK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bhutta sahib:
> > > > Official or un-official, please get togather with the
> > Gentlemen. ???????You were unkind not to join in Lahore.
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Razaq
> > > > sbhutta wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear All
> > > > ,AoA,
> > > > For the kind information of members that this is not official
> > meeting of ISPAK. The General Body meeting of ISPAK will be held on 10th
> > July,2001. at ISPAK.Office. May I suggest to my friends that we should
not
> > use ISPAK mailing list for politics. Best regardsSanaullah
BhuttaPresident
> > ISPAK. Please see mail of Mr.Ateeq Khan of Gem.net.
> > > >
=============================================================Dear
> > Bhutta Sahib,What you read in my email was the same as sent to every
one. I
> > did not propose any MEETING to DISCUSS it further. To the contrary I
> > suggested to STOP discussing and start taking action in our own way.Hope
> > this clarifies. RegardsAteeq Khan ----- Original Message -----From:
> > "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent:
> > Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:31 PMSubject: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi
>
> > Dear Friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is in reference to my earlier email on meeting of ISP's
in
> > Karachi on
> > > > > June 25,2001.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please note the venue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Place :Business Center Pearl Continental (PC-Karachi).
> > > > > Time: 1100 Hours
> > > > > Date: June 25,2001.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are looking forward to welcome you.
> > > > >
> > > > > For and On Behalf of
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Moeen Sadiq Malik ( Paknet)
> > > > > Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi (POL)
> > > > > Mr. Nadeem Aslam Malik ( Iways)
> > > > > Mr. Saad Saleem (Micro.net)
> > > > > Mr. Naeem Haq ( Nexlinx)
> > > > > Mr. Effan Ibne Riaz (WORLDCALL)
> > > > > Mr. Azfar Manzoor/Zahid Haleem (World Online)
> > > > > Mr. Amer Saleem ( Netsol )
> > > > > Mr. Asad Sibtain (PICL Globelnet)
> > > > > Mr. S.M.Shafi (Infonet)
> > > > > Engr. Imran Akhtar Shah ( WORLDTEL MECA )
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