Saad Sahib,
Leave aside the people who may come to Pakistan to invest or not, because
they will do there homework before coming here. Think about your business.
If royalty becomes legal, then it will not be a crime for the state to
collect the money.
Think what will happen if royalty becomes legal by some PCO or ordinance,
and then we will al have to pay 4%, and PTA will start policing us on each
line of the license that we signed.
Old and wise people say that you should think 100 times, before saying any
thing, as once you have said it, you cannot turn back. Think before
venturing into any conflict, specially when you do not have any where to
turn back to.
Regards,
Nasir.
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
> Janaab ,
>
> I doubt any government would like to act or commit crime at state level and
> if this is the sate of affairs then we should call Minster Sb back home ,
> who is gone abroad to request Expatriates to come to Pakistan and invest
> their hard earned money . No one living in any civilized country would like
> to live in a country and invest where Government is doing illegal things or
> is forcing to collect illegal money .
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Saad Saleem
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official meeting
> of ISPAK
>
>
> >
> > Everybody is entitled to his own view, but I think that GOP will never
> > give back such a big sum, and will do whatever it can to stop it.
> >
> > We should think carefully before trying any such venture which directly
> > hurts the revenue center of the GOP. "Yi na ho ki rozi bakshwani gayi thi
> > aur namazin gali par gayin"
> >
> > And illegal arms and illegal royalty are two very different thing. One is
> > creating problem for the govt, and the other is making money for them.
> > They will keep the illegal royalty and use the money generated to rid the
> > country of illegal arms.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nasir.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
> >
> > > Janab Aleey ,
> > >
> > >
> > > If it happens then it will be a good thing , as all illegal things
> should
> > > vanish from this
> > > country . Don't you see how present government is striving hard to
> remove
> > > all illegal weapons
> > > from the country . I am sure government will reward those who volunteer
> > > spent money and their time to get the illegal things removed from the
> > > country .It will set a precedent for the others to
> > > follow the same foot steps .
> > >
> > > "Lets make Pakistan free from all illegal activates ,laws and
> businesses
> > > A heaven on earth where there is law and justice "
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Saad Saleem
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 7:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official
> meeting
> > > of ISPAK
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But if we prove that the royalty is illegal in court, won't the mobile
> > > > operators be able to prove the same in the court and get refund from
> the
> > > > GOP ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Nasir.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Our case is different from Mobile Operators . We have not been given
> any
> > > > > Monopoly status like Mobile Operators have been given (Only 4 are
> > > allowed to
> > > > > operate ). There are more than 157 EIS licenses and more are coming
> ,
> > > there
> > > > > is no ban on new one's .So no similarity between us and Mobile
> operators
> > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly , Internet business is like other businesses , why Govt
> Will
> > > double
> > > > > Tax us ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Telecom Act 1996 was prepared and approved by the Govt . And it
> clearly
> > > says
> > > > > "PTA will collect funds for its operation and will also get grants
> from
> > > > > Federal Budget to the tune of Money / funds it requires to function
> . So
> > > > > there is no question of collecting funds in excess cost of
> regulation .
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way Telecom Act 1996 is protected by Privatization Act .
> Which
> > > > > prohibits any amendments in the Telecom Act 1996 till the
> privatization
> > > and
> > > > > the Monopoly period of PTCL .
> > > > >
> > > > > Well its better to consult some lawyer who can explain the above
> issues
> > > > > better than me .
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Saad Saleem
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official
> > > meeting
> > > > > of ISPAK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5) Why a few people are forcing the whole of industry to pay
> some
> > > thing
> > > > > which is totally illegal ???
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just want to tell every one what one of our good friend told
> us. He
> > > > > > said that the mobile operators have paid a very high amount to GOP
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > terms of royalty. IF the royalty is proved to be illegal in the
> court,
> > > > > > then the GOP will have to return that amount to the operators.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you all sincerely beleive that the government / country who is
> > > > > > desperatly in need of cash will allow a huge amount to be taken
> from
> > > their
> > > > > > pockets ??? A simple PCO or ordinance will be issued and the
> Telecome
> > > Act
> > > > > > will be ammended. Royalty will become legal and we all will be in
> a
> > > very
> > > > > > difficult position then we are now, as then we will have no
> friends
> > > and we
> > > > > > will still have to pay the money.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Those who do not have business (Internet )should refrain from
> > > > > participating in it .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Royalty will be challenged in the High Court within 3 days from
> now
> > > and
> > > > > Inshallah and therefore its very logical to hold and conduct
> meetings at
> > > > > various cities of Pakistan to make all members understand .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saad Saleem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: sbhutta
> > > > > > > To: Malik Razaq
> > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:47 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
> > > official
> > > > > meeting of ISPAK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Razaq Sahib,
> > > > > > > AoA,
> > > > > > > Are you aware of the back ground ?. It is right of each member
> of
> > > > > ISPAK to be elected as president of ISPAK but through
> constitutional
> > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For your kind information please see the following mail which
> > > will
> > > > > clear the position and aims and objective of Mr.Imran Akhtar Shah,
> He
> > > > > desires to be president pf ISPAK through back door, We have called
> > > meeting
> > > > > on 10th July 2001 for election and other issues. I hope you have
> came to
> > > > > know why I was not in Lahore meeting.
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Bhutta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 16:18
> > > > > > > To: nadeem
> > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Saad Saleem; Ansar
> ul
> > > > > Haque
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Elections
> > > > > > > Importance: High
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Nadeem,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, I differ here. Mr. Bhutta should be relieved as
> President
> > > > > ISPAK forthwith. And new setup as proposed by me come forward take
> > > charge.
> > > > > Mr. Bhutta was given enough time to avoid this eventuality but he
> did
> > > not
> > > > > understand. He damaged all our efforts of unity and the recent
> damage he
> > > has
> > > > > done you were witness to that. (Our Meeting with MOST)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Therefore, he is no more President ISPAK. Same has been
> > > communicated
> > > > > to MOST & PTCL/PTA. If you and Ansar do not agree please take a back
> > > seat
> > > > > and we will then take care of ISPAK affairs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Imran
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 02:39 PM 6/6/01 +0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Imran,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you really want the election to be held, I propose to
> go
> > > along
> > > > > by me. Do not suggest anything else. Let my idea of the election
> > > committee
> > > > > taking the lead role work. Other things will happen automatically.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Bhutta
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Malik Razaq
> > > > > > > To: sbhutta
> > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
> > > official
> > > > > meeting of ISPAK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bhutta sahib:
> > > > > > > Official or un-official, please get togather with the
> > > > > Gentlemen. ???????You were unkind not to join in Lahore.
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Razaq
> > > > > > > sbhutta wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear All
> > > > > > > ,AoA,
> > > > > > > For the kind information of members that this is not
> official
> > > > > meeting of ISPAK. The General Body meeting of ISPAK will be held on
> 10th
> > > > > July,2001. at ISPAK.Office. May I suggest to my friends that we
> should
> > > not
> > > > > use ISPAK mailing list for politics. Best regardsSanaullah
> > > BhuttaPresident
> > > > > ISPAK. Please see mail of Mr.Ateeq Khan of Gem.net.
> > > > > > >
> > > =============================================================Dear
> > > > > Bhutta Sahib,What you read in my email was the same as sent to every
> > > one. I
> > > > > did not propose any MEETING to DISCUSS it further. To the contrary I
> > > > > suggested to STOP discussing and start taking action in our own
> way.Hope
> > > > > this clarifies. RegardsAteeq Khan ----- Original Message -----From:
> > > > > "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent:
> > > > > Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:31 PMSubject: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at
> Karachi
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is in reference to my earlier email on meeting of
> ISP's
> > > in
> > > > > Karachi on
> > > > > > > > June 25,2001.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please note the venue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Place :Business Center Pearl Continental (PC-Karachi).
> > > > > > > > Time: 1100 Hours
> > > > > > > > Date: June 25,2001.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are looking forward to welcome you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For and On Behalf of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mr. Moeen Sadiq Malik ( Paknet)
> > > > > > > > Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi (POL)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Nadeem Aslam Malik ( Iways)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Saad Saleem (Micro.net)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Naeem Haq ( Nexlinx)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Effan Ibne Riaz (WORLDCALL)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Azfar Manzoor/Zahid Haleem (World Online)
> > > > > > > > Mr. Amer Saleem ( Netsol )
> > > > > > > > Mr. Asad Sibtain (PICL Globelnet)
> > > > > > > > Mr. S.M.Shafi (Infonet)
> > > > > > > > Engr. Imran Akhtar Shah ( WORLDTEL MECA )
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