Janab ,
I look forward to meet you in Karachi . Please do come and meet us there in
your city .
Whenever you come to Islamabad , give us the chance to be your hosts or any
help you need from your fellows here .
Regards
Saad Saleem
----- Original Message -----
From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official meeting
of ISPAK
> Saad Sahib,
>
> Leave aside the people who may come to Pakistan to invest or not, because
> they will do there homework before coming here. Think about your business.
>
> If royalty becomes legal, then it will not be a crime for the state to
> collect the money.
>
> Think what will happen if royalty becomes legal by some PCO or ordinance,
> and then we will al have to pay 4%, and PTA will start policing us on each
> line of the license that we signed.
>
> Old and wise people say that you should think 100 times, before saying any
> thing, as once you have said it, you cannot turn back. Think before
> venturing into any conflict, specially when you do not have any where to
> turn back to.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nasir.
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
>
> > Janaab ,
> >
> > I doubt any government would like to act or commit crime at state level
and
> > if this is the sate of affairs then we should call Minster Sb back home
,
> > who is gone abroad to request Expatriates to come to Pakistan and invest
> > their hard earned money . No one living in any civilized country would
like
> > to live in a country and invest where Government is doing illegal things
or
> > is forcing to collect illegal money .
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Saad Saleem
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official
meeting
> > of ISPAK
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Everybody is entitled to his own view, but I think that GOP will never
> > > give back such a big sum, and will do whatever it can to stop it.
> > >
> > > We should think carefully before trying any such venture which
directly
> > > hurts the revenue center of the GOP. "Yi na ho ki rozi bakshwani gayi
thi
> > > aur namazin gali par gayin"
> > >
> > > And illegal arms and illegal royalty are two very different thing. One
is
> > > creating problem for the govt, and the other is making money for them.
> > > They will keep the illegal royalty and use the money generated to rid
the
> > > country of illegal arms.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Nasir.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
> > >
> > > > Janab Aleey ,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If it happens then it will be a good thing , as all illegal things
> > should
> > > > vanish from this
> > > > country . Don't you see how present government is striving hard to
> > remove
> > > > all illegal weapons
> > > > from the country . I am sure government will reward those who
volunteer
> > > > spent money and their time to get the illegal things removed from
the
> > > > country .It will set a precedent for the others to
> > > > follow the same foot steps .
> > > >
> > > > "Lets make Pakistan free from all illegal activates ,laws and
> > businesses
> > > > A heaven on earth where there is law and justice "
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Saad Saleem
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 7:29 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not official
> > meeting
> > > > of ISPAK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But if we prove that the royalty is illegal in court, won't the
mobile
> > > > > operators be able to prove the same in the court and get refund
from
> > the
> > > > > GOP ???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nasir.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Saad Saleem wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Our case is different from Mobile Operators . We have not been
given
> > any
> > > > > > Monopoly status like Mobile Operators have been given (Only 4
are
> > > > allowed to
> > > > > > operate ). There are more than 157 EIS licenses and more are
coming
> > ,
> > > > there
> > > > > > is no ban on new one's .So no similarity between us and Mobile
> > operators
> > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondly , Internet business is like other businesses , why Govt
> > Will
> > > > double
> > > > > > Tax us ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Telecom Act 1996 was prepared and approved by the Govt . And it
> > clearly
> > > > says
> > > > > > "PTA will collect funds for its operation and will also get
grants
> > from
> > > > > > Federal Budget to the tune of Money / funds it requires to
function
> > . So
> > > > > > there is no question of collecting funds in excess cost of
> > regulation .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way Telecom Act 1996 is protected by Privatization Act .
> > Which
> > > > > > prohibits any amendments in the Telecom Act 1996 till the
> > privatization
> > > > and
> > > > > > the Monopoly period of PTCL .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well its better to consult some lawyer who can explain the above
> > issues
> > > > > > better than me .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saad Saleem
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "Saad Saleem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Malik Razaq"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:42 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
official
> > > > meeting
> > > > > > of ISPAK
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5) Why a few people are forcing the whole of industry to pay
> > some
> > > > thing
> > > > > > which is totally illegal ???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just want to tell every one what one of our good friend
told
> > us. He
> > > > > > > said that the mobile operators have paid a very high amount to
GOP
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > terms of royalty. IF the royalty is proved to be illegal in
the
> > court,
> > > > > > > then the GOP will have to return that amount to the operators.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you all sincerely beleive that the government / country who
is
> > > > > > > desperatly in need of cash will allow a huge amount to be
taken
> > from
> > > > their
> > > > > > > pockets ??? A simple PCO or ordinance will be issued and the
> > Telecome
> > > > Act
> > > > > > > will be ammended. Royalty will become legal and we all will be
in
> > a
> > > > very
> > > > > > > difficult position then we are now, as then we will have no
> > friends
> > > > and we
> > > > > > > will still have to pay the money.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Those who do not have business (Internet )should refrain
from
> > > > > > participating in it .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Royalty will be challenged in the High Court within 3 days
from
> > now
> > > > and
> > > > > > Inshallah and therefore its very logical to hold and conduct
> > meetings at
> > > > > > various cities of Pakistan to make all members understand .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Saad Saleem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: sbhutta
> > > > > > > > To: Malik Razaq
> > > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:47 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is not
> > > > official
> > > > > > meeting of ISPAK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Razaq Sahib,
> > > > > > > > AoA,
> > > > > > > > Are you aware of the back ground ?. It is right of each
member
> > of
> > > > > > ISPAK to be elected as president of ISPAK but through
> > constitutional
> > > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For your kind information please see the following mail
which
> > > > will
> > > > > > clear the position and aims and objective of Mr.Imran Akhtar
Shah,
> > He
> > > > > > desires to be president pf ISPAK through back door, We have
called
> > > > meeting
> > > > > > on 10th July 2001 for election and other issues. I hope you have
> > came to
> > > > > > know why I was not in Lahore meeting.
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > Bhutta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 16:18
> > > > > > > > To: nadeem
> > > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Saad Saleem;
Ansar
> > ul
> > > > > > Haque
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Elections
> > > > > > > > Importance: High
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Nadeem,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry, I differ here. Mr. Bhutta should be relieved as
> > President
> > > > > > ISPAK forthwith. And new setup as proposed by me come forward
take
> > > > charge.
> > > > > > Mr. Bhutta was given enough time to avoid this eventuality but
he
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > > > understand. He damaged all our efforts of unity and the recent
> > damage he
> > > > has
> > > > > > done you were witness to that. (Our Meeting with MOST)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Therefore, he is no more President ISPAK. Same has been
> > > > communicated
> > > > > > to MOST & PTCL/PTA. If you and Ansar do not agree please take a
back
> > > > seat
> > > > > > and we will then take care of ISPAK affairs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Imran
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At 02:39 PM 6/6/01 +0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Imran,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you really want the election to be held, I propose
to
> > go
> > > > along
> > > > > > by me. Do not suggest anything else. Let my idea of the election
> > > > committee
> > > > > > taking the lead role work. Other things will happen
automatically.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > Bhutta
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Malik Razaq
> > > > > > > > To: sbhutta
> > > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:53 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at Karachi / this is
not
> > > > official
> > > > > > meeting of ISPAK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bhutta sahib:
> > > > > > > > Official or un-official, please get togather with
the
> > > > > > Gentlemen. ???????You were unkind not to join in Lahore.
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > Razaq
> > > > > > > > sbhutta wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear All
> > > > > > > > ,AoA,
> > > > > > > > For the kind information of members that this is not
> > official
> > > > > > meeting of ISPAK. The General Body meeting of ISPAK will be held
on
> > 10th
> > > > > > July,2001. at ISPAK.Office. May I suggest to my friends that we
> > should
> > > > not
> > > > > > use ISPAK mailing list for politics. Best regardsSanaullah
> > > > BhuttaPresident
> > > > > > ISPAK. Please see mail of Mr.Ateeq Khan of Gem.net.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > =============================================================Dear
> > > > > > Bhutta Sahib,What you read in my email was the same as sent to
every
> > > > one. I
> > > > > > did not propose any MEETING to DISCUSS it further. To the
contrary I
> > > > > > suggested to STOP discussing and start taking action in our own
> > way.Hope
> > > > > > this clarifies. RegardsAteeq Khan ----- Original
Message -----From:
> > > > > > "Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent:
> > > > > > Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:31 PMSubject: ISPAK: ISP's Meeting at
> > Karachi
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is in reference to my earlier email on meeting
of
> > ISP's
> > > > in
> > > > > > Karachi on
> > > > > > > > > June 25,2001.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please note the venue.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Place :Business Center Pearl Continental
(PC-Karachi).
> > > > > > > > > Time: 1100 Hours
> > > > > > > > > Date: June 25,2001.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are looking forward to welcome you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For and On Behalf of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Moeen Sadiq Malik ( Paknet)
> > > > > > > > > Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi (POL)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Nadeem Aslam Malik ( Iways)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Saad Saleem (Micro.net)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Naeem Haq ( Nexlinx)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Effan Ibne Riaz (WORLDCALL)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Azfar Manzoor/Zahid Haleem (World Online)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Amer Saleem ( Netsol )
> > > > > > > > > Mr. Asad Sibtain (PICL Globelnet)
> > > > > > > > > Mr. S.M.Shafi (Infonet)
> > > > > > > > > Engr. Imran Akhtar Shah ( WORLDTEL MECA )
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