Thanks for the explanation, Doug. I am glad you guys are
sensitive to this issue.

Cheers,
Bill

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Doug Twilleager wrote:

> If you look at how we have structured the open source development for
> the games projects
> on java.net, including JOGL, you can see how these problems can be
> avoided.  Yes, it is
> open source, and anyone who is motivated and has the skills can
> contribute, but it is very
> controlled. It has 1 or 2 individuals acting as project leaders ensuring
> that the evolution
> is well designed and within the spirit of the technologies.
>
> Doug.
>
> Bill Hibbard wrote:
>
> >Hi Will,
> >
> >>>What *technical* reasons are there for moving away from Java 3D?
> >>>
> >>I have two: dependence on a closed source API and lack of communication from
> >>the API developer.  Communication is a vital part of Information Technology
> >>as is highlighted by this case even if it isn't strictly "technical".
> >>. . .
> >>Now I don't think any of this spills across to Java - obviously Sun has a very
> >>good commercial case for continuing that, so I shall be using Java, open
> >>source 3D graphics but sadly no longer Java3D.
> >>
> >
> >I also am an open source enthusiast - all my software is
> >open source. But I don't think open source is the best
> >solution for Java3D. The rest of Java is not open source,
> >and Java would have been ruined long ago if it had been
> >licensed under GPL or LGPL. The key thing about the Java
> >license is that you may not call something Java unless it
> >is compatible with the Java reference. This protects
> >platform independence.
> >
> >An open source Java3D would be preferable to no Java3D at
> >all, but if it goes open source then we'll see lots of
> >implementors who add their own little improvements and
> >hence create lots of incompatible versions. I switched to
> >Java (in January 1996) because I was fed up with the
> >constant platform problems from users of our systems. We
> >still get a stream of emails to the Vis5D (written in C)
> >mailing list from folks who are having trouble installing
> >on Linux (and other Unix flavors).
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Bill
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> >Bill Hibbard, SSEC, 1225 W. Dayton St., Madison, WI  53706
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> >http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/vis.html
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