I use a few Java desktop applications and none of them show orange 
windows and security dialogs. Don't confuse the applet/webstart 
experience with what is happening on a normal desktop install.

Regarding the lack of native look and feel I have mixed feelings. 
Neither Windows nor Linux do a good job in providing a consistent look 
and feel to begin with, so why should I really care? It needs to be 
similar, but not the same. I actually have written an app that default 
to the Plastik look and feel and I have never had someone complain about 
that, I truly believe most users probably would tell you that it looks 
exactly like all the other programs they use. It doesn't, but people 
abstract from those details, particularly in times where half the 
application they use on a daily basis have a ribbon, the other half don't.

The one thing that always annoys me with Swing is the crappy file 
dialog, though. Gnome finally got one that is as good as the KDE one, 
but the one Swing has does not even compete with the Windows one. And 
that is setting the barrier low -- unless we want to include Motif as 
candidate :-)

The story with print dialogs is at least as bad, but somehow print 
dialogs seem always a pain -- many Windows programs bring their own and 
on Linux it's a real mess.

If Swing would have decent file and print I would not notice Swing apps 
at all during may daily work.

  Peter


Casper Bang wrote:
> On 2 Jul., 15:08, Juan Marín Otero <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> I stand corrected, misinterpretation on my part.
>>     
>
> Fair enough. :)
>
>   
>> In fact, I use it on my Ubuntu laptop constantly. I did not know that it was
>> written in Mono either.
>>     
>
> That seems like pretty good testament to the technology. Especially
> considering what people complain about with Java on the desktop
> (orange Java logo's, security dialogs, not native looking, no screen
> reader support).
>
>   
>> I have also used F-Spot and others written in that language for that
>> platform, but I still don't see the extra value they provide by being
>> written in Mono.
>>     
>
> Well I suppose some people are just tired of week types, malloc/free
> and having no way to compose in components - I'd consider myself one
> of those.
>
> /Casper
> >
>   



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