these comments about OSGi are funny because they completely reflect only one side of the debate, and characterize the OSGi "camp" as political when it was in fact Jigsaw that was politically motivated.
Eric On Oct 12, 2010 5:10 AM, "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]> wrote: On 10/12/10 10:58 , Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > Huh? > > JDK7 is not going to be modularized. No... In fact, I said JDK8. > > As far as I understand, the OSGi vs. Jigsaw dynamic hasn't changed in > the slightest; OSGi is ... It's consistent with what I recall. But I also recall that advocates of the OSGi camp have a different point of view. If somebody's here, I'd like to hear about that. SInce the OSGi attitude has got a large political, non technical component, I'm wondering whether a direction change could come. For instance, look at how Alex Blewitt (an OSGi advocate from the Eclipse Foundation) reported the news: http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/10/ibm-joins-openjdk *** [Mark Reinhold] also notes that the tighter integration will be possible both for the Java Community Process and the endorsement of the Java 7 and Java 8 proposals put forwards. The modular approach used by the Java implementation for the Apache Harmony <http://harmony.apache.org> project might be one aspect carried forward to OpenJDK. Only a week after the OSGi Community Event < http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/10/osgice> in which a demonstration of the cut-down OSGi-based modular runtime was given, there were discussions of OSGi minimum environments < http://www.osgi.org/blog/2010/10/minimal-osgi-systems.html>. Tim Ellison of the Apache Harmony project agrees the mutual respect between IBM and Oracle, and that there will be benefits: So what's best for the Java ecosystem? I believe that compatibility is vital, and rather than risk divergence the right thing is to bring the key platform development groups together on a common codebase. Lessons learned on Project Harmony will be of value to OpenJDK. *** I'd like to understand better what Alex (I think it's not here in the mailing list) meant when he referred to the "modular approach ... of Harmony" - as it's being implied that something currently in Harmony could make its way to OpenJDK 8. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere... [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" gro... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
