I agree w/ Tim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overjustification_effect#Volunteering
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com> wrote: > CIL > > On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-7, Tim Hockin wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks <jack...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment >> is >> > worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why >> not >> > have both extrinsic and intrinsic, then see what happens? >> >> That was the point of the study. Intrinsic motivators alone ("help >> make the world a better place") were MORE effective than combined >> motivators ("help make the world a better place, and here's 100 bucks >> for your effort"). >> > > 21 also allows the reward to be automatically credited to a charity: > currently, there are four choices: CoinCenter, Black Girls Code, Folding At > Home, Code To Inspire. > > >> >> > Would love more feedback. >> >> Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube >> "janitors" effort. This has been pretty effective in the Linux >> kernel, finding ways for people who didn't know the whole kernel to >> contribute, clean up, and earn an identity ("I'm on the kernel >> janitors team!"), and take a ton of tasks off the backlog. It needs a >> rally point, a website, a logo, and some serious effort cataloging >> initial work items. >> > > This along with the K8sport effort share similar aims! I think what we are > envisioning here is highly complimentary. > > >> >> >> > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Tim Hockin <tho...@google.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Curiously, I was JUST listening to a radio piece exploring the effects >> >> of intrinsic and extrinsic motivators. It is well understood that >> >> "common purpose" and "for the greater good" (intrinsic motivators) are >> >> more effective than money and stuff (extrinsic motivators). The >> >> interesting part was that the addition of an extrinsic motivator to a >> >> situation which was already intrinsically motivated REDUCED the net >> >> motivation. >> >> >> >> So we should be careful that applying money to our community doesn't >> >> change it from a righteous mission into a low-paying job. >> >> >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Lucas Käldström <lu...@luxaslabs.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Adding kubernetes-dev and kubernetes-maintainers... >> >> > >> >> > On May 28 2017, at 12:31 am, Joseph Jacks <jack...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/868577771953455105 >> >> >> >> >> >> Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and came up with this over the >> last >> >> >> hour. Feedback welcome! >> >> >> >> >> >> Doc: >> >> >> >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VQDIAB0OqiSjIHI8AWMvSdce >> Whnz56jNpZrLs6o7NJY/edit#heading=h.en8cy6hno0c6 >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > "Kubernetes user discussion and Q&A" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send >> >> > an >> >> > email to kubernetes-use...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to kubernet...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/kubernetes-users. >> >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Kubernetes user discussion and Q&A" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to kubernetes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to kubernetes-users@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/kubernetes-users. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Kubernetes user discussion and Q&A" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to kubernetes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to kubernetes-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/kubernetes-users. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.