I agree w/ Tim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overjustification_effect#Volunteering

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com> wrote:

> CIL
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-7, Tim Hockin wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks <jack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment
>> is
>> > worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why
>> not
>> > have both extrinsic and intrinsic, then see what happens?
>>
>> That was the point of the study.  Intrinsic motivators alone ("help
>> make the world a better place") were MORE effective than combined
>> motivators ("help make the world a better place, and here's 100 bucks
>> for your effort").
>>
>
> 21 also allows the reward to be automatically credited to a charity:
> currently, there are four choices: CoinCenter, Black Girls Code, Folding At
> Home, Code To Inspire.
>
>
>>
>> > Would love more feedback.
>>
>> Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube
>> "janitors" effort.  This has been pretty effective in the Linux
>> kernel, finding ways for people who didn't know the whole kernel to
>> contribute, clean up, and earn an identity ("I'm on the kernel
>> janitors team!"), and take a ton of tasks off the backlog.  It needs a
>> rally point, a website, a logo, and some serious effort cataloging
>> initial work items.
>>
>
> This along with the K8sport effort share similar aims! I think what we are
> envisioning here is highly complimentary.
>
>
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Tim Hockin <tho...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Curiously, I was JUST listening to a radio piece exploring the effects
>> >> of intrinsic and extrinsic motivators.  It is well understood that
>> >> "common purpose" and "for the greater good" (intrinsic motivators) are
>> >> more effective than money and stuff (extrinsic motivators).  The
>> >> interesting part was that the addition of an extrinsic motivator to a
>> >> situation which was already intrinsically motivated REDUCED the net
>> >> motivation.
>> >>
>> >> So we should be careful that applying money to our community doesn't
>> >> change it from a righteous mission into a low-paying job.
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Lucas Käldström <lu...@luxaslabs.com>
>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Adding kubernetes-dev and kubernetes-maintainers...
>> >> >
>> >> > On May 28 2017, at 12:31 am, Joseph Jacks <jack...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/868577771953455105
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and came up with this over the
>> last
>> >> >> hour. Feedback welcome!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Doc:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VQDIAB0OqiSjIHI8AWMvSdce
>> Whnz56jNpZrLs6o7NJY/edit#heading=h.en8cy6hno0c6
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