On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:45 PM, 'Tim Hockin' via Kubernetes Maintainers <
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> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment is
> > worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why
> not
> > have both extrinsic and intrinsic, then see what happens?
>
> That was the point of the study.  Intrinsic motivators alone ("help
> make the world a better place") were MORE effective than combined
> motivators ("help make the world a better place, and here's 100 bucks
> for your effort").
>
> > Would love more feedback.
>
> Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube
> "janitors" effort.  This has been pretty effective in the Linux
> kernel, finding ways for people who didn't know the whole kernel to
> contribute, clean up, and earn an identity ("I'm on the kernel
> janitors team!"), and take a ton of tasks off the backlog.  It needs a
> rally point, a website, a logo, and some serious effort cataloging
> initial work items.
>

And significant guidance, review, and PR bandwidth.


>
>
> > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Tim Hockin <thoc...@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Curiously, I was JUST listening to a radio piece exploring the effects
> >> of intrinsic and extrinsic motivators.  It is well understood that
> >> "common purpose" and "for the greater good" (intrinsic motivators) are
> >> more effective than money and stuff (extrinsic motivators).  The
> >> interesting part was that the addition of an extrinsic motivator to a
> >> situation which was already intrinsically motivated REDUCED the net
> >> motivation.
> >>
> >> So we should be careful that applying money to our community doesn't
> >> change it from a righteous mission into a low-paying job.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Lucas Käldström <lu...@luxaslabs.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Adding kubernetes-dev and kubernetes-maintainers...
> >> >
> >> > On May 28 2017, at 12:31 am, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/868577771953455105
> >> >>
> >> >> Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and came up with this over the last
> >> >> hour. Feedback welcome!
> >> >>
> >> >> Doc:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VQDIAB0OqiSjIHI8AWMvSdceWhnz5
> 6jNpZrLs6o7NJY/edit#heading=h.en8cy6hno0c6
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