On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:45 PM, 'Tim Hockin' via Kubernetes Maintainers < kubernetes-maintain...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks! I do hear you, Tim --- however, I find that such an experiment is > > worthy in the face of the challenges the project has in this area. Why > not > > have both extrinsic and intrinsic, then see what happens? > > That was the point of the study. Intrinsic motivators alone ("help > make the world a better place") were MORE effective than combined > motivators ("help make the world a better place, and here's 100 bucks > for your effort"). > > > Would love more feedback. > > Something I wanted to do but fell off my plate is to set up a kube > "janitors" effort. This has been pretty effective in the Linux > kernel, finding ways for people who didn't know the whole kernel to > contribute, clean up, and earn an identity ("I'm on the kernel > janitors team!"), and take a ton of tasks off the backlog. It needs a > rally point, a website, a logo, and some serious effort cataloging > initial work items. > And significant guidance, review, and PR bandwidth. > > > > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Tim Hockin <thoc...@google.com> wrote: > >> > >> Curiously, I was JUST listening to a radio piece exploring the effects > >> of intrinsic and extrinsic motivators. It is well understood that > >> "common purpose" and "for the greater good" (intrinsic motivators) are > >> more effective than money and stuff (extrinsic motivators). The > >> interesting part was that the addition of an extrinsic motivator to a > >> situation which was already intrinsically motivated REDUCED the net > >> motivation. > >> > >> So we should be careful that applying money to our community doesn't > >> change it from a righteous mission into a low-paying job. > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Lucas Käldström <lu...@luxaslabs.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Adding kubernetes-dev and kubernetes-maintainers... > >> > > >> > On May 28 2017, at 12:31 am, Joseph Jacks <jacks....@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> https://twitter.com/kubernetesonarm/status/868577771953455105 > >> >> > >> >> Lucas and I got to DM'ing earlier and came up with this over the last > >> >> hour. Feedback welcome! > >> >> > >> >> Doc: > >> >> > >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VQDIAB0OqiSjIHI8AWMvSdceWhnz5 > 6jNpZrLs6o7NJY/edit#heading=h.en8cy6hno0c6 > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Kubernetes user discussion and Q&A" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an > >> > email to kubernetes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To post to this group, send email to kubernetes-users@googlegroups. > com. > >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/kubernetes-users. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Kubernetes Maintainers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to kubernetes-maintainers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to kubernetes-maintainers@ > googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/kubernetes-maintainers/CAO_RewYwjWcntqpPbm_BAWd% > 2BtJXLGYvjkMK8hMN41OUGLoZMhw%40mail.gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Kubernetes user discussion and Q&A" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to kubernetes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to kubernetes-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/kubernetes-users. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.