Hoi,
Everything is nor easy not obvious. ku.wikipedia existed prior to the
existence of the language committee. Kurdish is a macro language and it
would not be accepted at this time.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 7 May 2015 at 02:09, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gerard, I don't get why Sorani Kurdish Wikipedia has two scripts
> ku.wikipedia.org and ckb.wikipedia.org.
>
>
> On 5/6/2015 8:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> Without feedback I am against a new project.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 5 May 2015 at 09:30, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Amir, can you give us an update on what happened since that az-wp
>> admin's ugly action?
>>
>> Gerard had proposed that we only act after interacting with the az
>> communities on their preferences. However, I'm afraid that this will cause
>> only further division (quite apart from the fact that azj speakers and azb
>> speakers do not seem to be able to communicate with each other in writing).
>> So, as has been suggested in an earlier message for LangCom to take action
>> asap in our role as "appointed experts", I vote to approve the outstanding
>> request for azb-wp.
>>
>> Have I counted correctly that we're now 5 in favour and 1 against?
>> How much longer must we wait for other LangCom members to cast their vote?
>> Who is able to implement our decision? Or at least communicate our
>> decision to those who will implement it?
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> On 04-May-15 10:20 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
>>
>> I'm with Antony: what that admin did is ugly and wrong, but it's only a
>> symptom, and according to what I know about this language, the right
>> solution to the problem is to split the site, similarly to what is done
>> with Punjabi and Hindi/Urdu.
>>
>> The spoken language may be the same, but the written languages are not,
>> in practice, mutually intelligible, because the Arabic script is not
>> studied by people in the Republic of Azerbaijan, and vice-versa, so the
>> languages are not unique enough to exist within the same site. As I wrote
>> earlier, I'm surprised that they held together for so long. The codes
>> should be az and azb.
>>
>> There is an outstanding request for azb Wikipedia, and there is an active
>> localization community, and we should simply approve it.
>> בתאריך 4 במאי 2015 21:31, "Antony Green" <[email protected]> כתב:
>>
>>> If the Azeri Wikipedia community wants separate Wikipedias for Latin and
>>> Arab script, I'm in favor of doing that, partially because of the
>>> impossibility of automatic conversion and partially because of the
>>> linguistic differences between Northern and Southern Azeri, which if I've
>>> understood the situation correctly are greater in the written language than
>>> the spoken language. (In this respect the difference between the languages
>>> is reminiscent of the difference between Hindi and Urdu: the spoken
>>> languages are largely mutually intelligible, but the written languages are
>>> not, for one thing because the scripts are different and for another
>>> because learnèd words are borrowed from different sources.)
>>>
>>> If that is the route we go, then I'm in favor of keeping the status quo
>>> at az-wp, namely that it is written in Northern Azeri (the standard
>>> language of the Republic of Azerbaijan) in the Latin script; it need not be
>>> moved to azj.
>>>
>>> I would prefer that the Arabic-script Southern Azeri Wikipedia use the
>>> code azb and not az-Arab.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Antony
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-04 15:52, Mjbmr wrote:
>>>
>>>> South Azerbaijani has a iso 639-3 code and that's azb and not az-arab,
>>>> there are resources that make this language separate from North Azerbaijani
>>>> and that's not just script.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Michael Everson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4 May 2015, at 09:45, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Gerard, but I'm voting with MF, mjbmr and Michael to let Azeri
>>>>>> in Latin script keep az.wikipedia. I also vote for opening a new
>>>>>> wikipedia
>>>>>> for Azeri in Arabic script, preferably az-arab.wikipedia.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend that we go to the community and tell them that we want to
>>>>> create just that, az-arab.wikipedia, as the solution that we (the
>>>>> appointed
>>>>> experts) feel is best for their concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not believe you will find them opposing it. If however we give
>>>>> them a basket of options (some of which this committee does not support)
>>>>> then we are only prolonging problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
>>>>>
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