Thank you. I will check that when I have time and respond to you. Regarding illegal aliens, I think that He would say "Thou shalt not trespass against others". However, I am not a theologian nor even a very good Christian so I do not maintain absolute certainty on this matter. This comment also offers an opportunity to wish you and other members on this list who celebrate it a happy Easter, whether you celebrate this Sunday or on the 23rd.
For life and liberty, David Macko ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry L Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration > Dave, go to the CBS web site, examine the poll released by > them on Monday, then let us know your take! > > Btw, regarding currently illegal aliens per se, what would > Jesus do? > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty > > > > --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I would be interested in seeing the exact wording >> of the poll. Many times poll results are manipulated by >> the manner in which questions are phrased. >> >> For life and liberty, >> David Macko >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terry L Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:00 AM >> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration >> >> >> > Uncoolrabbit, I'm disgusted by this reasoning :( >> > >> > They are human beings asking to not be made felons for just >> > living and working. Also, CBS poll released this past Monday >> > sez that three quaters of Americans APPROVE the concept of >> > providing currentlly illegal aliens with a path to legality. >> > >> > What fucking political calculation is needed here! >> > >> > >> > -Terry Liberty Parker >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > <uncoolrabbit@> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I was talking about it from a political point of view not an >> >> idealogical point of view. I do apreciate local control, but I >> > don't >> >> have some phobia of being walled out of Mexico either. We agree > on >> >> some things, disagree on others. I am in favor of open > imigration >> > in >> >> theory but there are many issues to adress on the road to this >> >> honorable goal. So I stand by my statement that political gains >> > from >> >> speaking out on the right thing to do will bring little gain if > any >> >> as it would alienate the closet protectionists while failing to >> > grab >> >> a substantial chunk of the democratic support. As a whole the > party >> >> would gain little. Individuals stand to gain alot however, >> > especialy >> >> a hispanic libertarian politician who wanted to use the moment > for >> >> instant political gains. >> >> >> >> Im pro imigration terry, I am just saying it would not cause > long >> >> term increased success for the party at a national level. I can > see >> >> it doing alot for the party in southwestern states though. I was > in >> >> Texas for almost two years and I will be back there again soon, > and >> >> many of the nicest people I knew down there were Mexican > migrants, >> > I >> >> know there not criminals or dangerous people but my stance on a >> > need >> >> to document imigrants and migrants remains becasue it is not > only >> >> Latine Americans who cross north over the Rio Grande. If you > look >> >> into past news you might find mention of the 4 Pakistani's who > were >> >> aprehended after slipping into Texas, and spent an absurdley > long >> >> time in US custody for being mere ilegal imigrants, as they were >> > not >> >> mere ilegal imigrants. >> >> >> >> I never said stick our heads in the sand, I said flashing our >> >> tailfeathers wont turn as many heads as the post I replied to >> >> implied. >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" > <cottondrop@> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > No you are wrong Uncool Rabbit, libertarians sticking their > heads >> >> in >> >> > the sand or zipping their lips would not be a good stradegy >> > move, >> >> > taking a stand would be but it needs to a thought out stand, >> >> > immigration is a human rights and property rights issue, it is > a >> >> > local issue ( being that you are a green libertarian you > should >> > be >> >> > able to appreciate and communicate the importance of local >> >> control) >> >> > that can preculde Open borders but it does not include the >> > federal >> >> > government having immigration laws especially heavy handed >> >> dracionan >> >> > laws and it is very important that the federal government does >> > not >> >> > build my dear Senator Bill Frisk's big wall on the border, > walls >> >> can >> >> > keep people in as well as keep them out.--- In >> >> > [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > It might have been missed in the intial post... that the >> > massive >> >> > > latino protests are not about imigration. They are about > ilegal >> >> > > imigration. Pro imigration is great, but the right stance on > it >> >> > right >> >> > > now won't bring the political success imagined as the right >> >> > approach >> >> > > is not to support ilegal imigration, wich also would only > bring >> >> its >> >> > > greatest success with non americans. The LP getting vocal > here >> >> > would >> >> > > serve to divide the already small LP, and give undue credit > to >> >> the >> >> > > administration. There is a mass of issues that must be > resolved >> >> > before >> >> > > open imigration should hit the LP political table, > everything >> >> from >> >> > > imigration system reform to ending the welfare state. >> >> > > >> >> > > I would say this is a good time to say mum is the word, > going >> >> pro >> >> > > ilegal imigration will not wrestle some great hispanic > support >> >> for >> >> > the >> >> > > LP away from the democrats. ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! 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