Dave, go to the CBS web site, examine the poll released by them on Monday, then let us know your take!
Btw, regarding currently illegal aliens per se, what would Jesus do? -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would be interested in seeing the exact wording > of the poll. Many times poll results are manipulated by > the manner in which questions are phrased. > > For life and liberty, > David Macko > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry L Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:00 AM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration > > > > Uncoolrabbit, I'm disgusted by this reasoning :( > > > > They are human beings asking to not be made felons for just > > living and working. Also, CBS poll released this past Monday > > sez that three quaters of Americans APPROVE the concept of > > providing currentlly illegal aliens with a path to legality. > > > > What fucking political calculation is needed here! > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I was talking about it from a political point of view not an > >> idealogical point of view. I do apreciate local control, but I > > don't > >> have some phobia of being walled out of Mexico either. We agree on > >> some things, disagree on others. I am in favor of open imigration > > in > >> theory but there are many issues to adress on the road to this > >> honorable goal. So I stand by my statement that political gains > > from > >> speaking out on the right thing to do will bring little gain if any > >> as it would alienate the closet protectionists while failing to > > grab > >> a substantial chunk of the democratic support. As a whole the party > >> would gain little. Individuals stand to gain alot however, > > especialy > >> a hispanic libertarian politician who wanted to use the moment for > >> instant political gains. > >> > >> Im pro imigration terry, I am just saying it would not cause long > >> term increased success for the party at a national level. I can see > >> it doing alot for the party in southwestern states though. I was in > >> Texas for almost two years and I will be back there again soon, and > >> many of the nicest people I knew down there were Mexican migrants, > > I > >> know there not criminals or dangerous people but my stance on a > > need > >> to document imigrants and migrants remains becasue it is not only > >> Latine Americans who cross north over the Rio Grande. If you look > >> into past news you might find mention of the 4 Pakistani's who were > >> aprehended after slipping into Texas, and spent an absurdley long > >> time in US custody for being mere ilegal imigrants, as they were > > not > >> mere ilegal imigrants. > >> > >> I never said stick our heads in the sand, I said flashing our > >> tailfeathers wont turn as many heads as the post I replied to > >> implied. > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <cottondrop@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > No you are wrong Uncool Rabbit, libertarians sticking their heads > >> in > >> > the sand or zipping their lips would not be a good stradegy > > move, > >> > taking a stand would be but it needs to a thought out stand, > >> > immigration is a human rights and property rights issue, it is a > >> > local issue ( being that you are a green libertarian you should > > be > >> > able to appreciate and communicate the importance of local > >> control) > >> > that can preculde Open borders but it does not include the > > federal > >> > government having immigration laws especially heavy handed > >> dracionan > >> > laws and it is very important that the federal government does > > not > >> > build my dear Senator Bill Frisk's big wall on the border, walls > >> can > >> > keep people in as well as keep them out.--- In > >> > [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > It might have been missed in the intial post... that the > > massive > >> > > latino protests are not about imigration. They are about ilegal > >> > > imigration. Pro imigration is great, but the right stance on it > >> > right > >> > > now won't bring the political success imagined as the right > >> > approach > >> > > is not to support ilegal imigration, wich also would only bring > >> its > >> > > greatest success with non americans. The LP getting vocal here > >> > would > >> > > serve to divide the already small LP, and give undue credit to > >> the > >> > > administration. There is a mass of issues that must be resolved > >> > before > >> > > open imigration should hit the LP political table, everything > >> from > >> > > imigration system reform to ending the welfare state. > >> > > > >> > > I would say this is a good time to say mum is the word, going > >> pro > >> > > ilegal imigration will not wrestle some great hispanic support > >> for > >> > the > >> > > LP away from the democrats. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
