--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> WG,
>
> I'll have a crack at your ignorance, ok? No one here that I know,
> or nothing that I know as Libertarianism, has EVER done as you
> claim and imply:
> 1.) Blamed America for every conflict in the world;
> 2.) blamed America for not stepping in to stop conflicts;
> 3.) spit in the faces of our troops when they came home.
>
> -Mark
>

>

>
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> --------------
>
>
> What pathetic and outright stupid logic.  As I have said before,
> I am
> not happy that we are at war and held strong reservations about
> going
> to war before we went.  This is exactly the kind of thing that
> really
> turns people off from the LP and libertarianism in general,
> including
> myself.  The whole movement has been taken over by the "Blame
> America
> First" crowd.  America is to blame for every conflict in the
> world,
> either for starting it in the first place or for not stepping in
> to
> stop it.  SImply because I am not screaming for a full retreat in
> a
> war that I didn't even support in the first place, and would
> rather
> give our military support rather than Vietnam-style hate, doesn't
>
> somehow equate to an armed robbery.  Jesus! Please step in line
> to
> spit in the faces of our troops when they come home. 
>
>
> Since World War II, the decision-making power of Congress to
> declare
> war has been voluntarily limited to issuing authorizations of
> force.
> The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (Public Law 93-148) limits the
> power of the President of the United States to wage war without
> the
> approval of the Congress.  Military engagements authorized by
> Congress
> Many times, the United States has engaged in extended military
> engagements that, while not formally declared wars, were
> explicitly
> authorized by Congress, short of a formal declaration of war.
> These
> were:
>
> Quasi-War France 1798   Convention of 1800 (Treaty of
> Mortefontaine)
> First Barbary War Barbary States 1801   
> Second Barbary War Barbary States 1815   
> Raid of slave traffic Africa 1820   
> Redress for attack on U.S. Navy vessel Paraguay 1859   
> Intervention during the Russian Civil War Bolshevist Russia 1918
>
> Protection of Lebanon Rebels 1958   
> Vietnam War National Liberation Front, later Democratic Republic
> of
> Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, August 7, 1964
> Restoration of Lebanese government  1982   
> Invasion of Panama a.k.a. Operation Just Cause Panama Defense
> Force
> December 20, 1989   Manuel Noriega deposed
> Persian Gulf War a.k.a. Operation Desert Storm Iraq January 12,
> 1991
> 52-47 250-183 The United Nations Security Council drew up terms
> for
> the cease-fire, April 3, 1991
> Invasion of Afghanistan a.k.a Operation Enduring Freedom Taliban
> government of Afghanistan,
> al-Qaida and other alleged terrorist groups S.J. Res. 23
> September 18, 2001
> Iraq War a.k.a. Operation Iraqi Freedom Iraq H.J. Res. 114,
> October 16, 2002
>
> PLease do not illustrate your ignorance by trying to lecture me
> on
> history.
>
> WG
>


That is just plain false.  More than once I have seen statements made
on this very blog to the effect that all current world conflict is the
result of US interference.





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