Vic you could not be any more wrong.  The road to HELL
is paved with good intentions

--- Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Vic, do these helmetless riders own* their bodies
> or are 
> > they 'responsible' to you?  
> > 
> > *exclusive right to determine use and disposition 
> 
> 
> this is the problem with the LP. the fact is cars
> are running over
> motorcyclists and the one without helmets have a
> much higher rate of
> death then ones with helmets. its easy to say its a
> personal
> responsibility thing and you are responsible for the
> choice you make.
> 
> but in real life things are not that clear, some
> people look to
> government for guidance, if that guidance isnt
> comming then some people may make
> bad choices, like not wearing helmets. its not just
> an issue of
> ownership its an issue of responsiblity. if the
> government says we dont
> give a shit if you wear a helmet or not, then thats
> sends a clear signal
> that there is nothing wrong with not wearing
> helmets. clearly the stats say
> if you get hit by a car you are much more likely to
> die then if you did
> wear a helmet. clearly there is something wrong with
> not wearing a
> helmet. its anarchy to say, the gov doesnt give a
> shit because you are
> the owner of your body and its not our problem if
> you make a dumb
> decision and die. thats not liberty.
> 
> the public wants the government to give a shit, they
> want the government
> to set acceptable behavior like wearing helmets.
> clearly there is a
> price to not wearing helmets. by enforcing fines for
> not wearing helmets
> the government is saying the same thing.
> 
> lack of helmet and seat belt laws are a clear case
> of liberty at a heavy price.
> 
> I dont beleive the vast majority want liberty at any
> price, and neither should the LP.
> 
> the LP should distance itself from anything that
> smells, feels or looks
> like anarchy. the planks must have a sense of
> responsibility about them.
> 
> liberty and freedom must be balanced by
> responsiblity.
> 
> the most significant and vote winning plank for the
> LP imo are taxation.
> 
> nothing inhibits liberty more then having your
> income and capital stolen
> to buy votes from others.
> 
> Vic
> 
> 
> 
> 



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