Hi Francois,

>> And, well, we can say the truth: the Linux IrDA project support is
>> not very good. I wanna say, I NOT COMPLAIN about it: I not pay
>> Brattli or the other developers for it, but they represent very
>> well the NO PROFESSIONAL ATTITUDE of many Linux projects.
>
>> They never updated the soundforge page in a year or so, and this
>> speak for themself; the documentation is very poorly, there is no
>> final code, everything is always at a development state, very early
>> development state... U not know where u can download the very last
>> version of IrDA utils becouse it NOT EXISTS. I know also Linus
>> complain about the totally lack of organization of the IrDA Linux
>> guys.
>
>> But, well, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM, I not pay for IrDA and
>> Linux so it's okie with them, I just wonder why they are unable to
>> update a horrible and simple Soundforge page with the latest
>> drivers and utils. That's pretty simple update a web page Linux
>> style... LOL

> Massimo, I guess here, you're going too far. :-(

What I say in the sentence before is a matter of fact. No flame at all.
Do u wanna know what I discovered myself this afternoon in a couple of
hours?

If u disable the plug & play stuff when u boot your kernel (press Esc at a
Lilo Prompt and type nobiospnp)
the SIR drivers load very well (and work too!!!!!!!!! Automagically...
:-((((((((((((((((() over my Dell Inspiron 8100; they also get along very
well with the Maestro sound drivers... LOL, I think a programmer like
Brattli (I know he have a Dell too) HAVE TO BE ABLE to understand such a
banal thing himself...

Remember: NO FLAME if he not do it, and no flame if he not wanna take care
of the IrDA pages. He is not payed for it, and I think this is the key. No
flames also if he is not a good programmer ( I NOT SAY HE IS A BAD
PROGRAMMER JUST TO BE CLEAR): no one pay him for what he do and to be a good
programmer.

So, if Linux programmers do what they do, it's not for me, but just for
themself, like I discovered the IrDA issue for myself and not for others. I
can share with others, but I did for myself, becouse I'm also not payed for
it. And Linux is not a proper professional OS, but just a pile of separate
things put together.

The pay stuff is a key in our lives... Remember. Microsoft do great OS
becouse they are professionals working on it. They have a goal and they are
payed for it.

>I'm very grateful and I have a lot of respect for those guys that
>develop for Linux.

As I stated before, I just respect them like any other human beings.

> I come from the OS/2 world, and would not like to
>have no choice but Windows.

Yep, this is good and this is your choice, like my choice was - way back in
1 9 9 2 to learn about Linux myself too. And I still used it right now,
sometimes, for the things that Linux is good for, like web serving and stuff
like that. But I do not have big pieces of meat on my eyes like many
computer geeks and Unix freaks :-)))), and an OS is not like a lover... LOL
LOL LOL I not fuck my Linux box... LOL LOL LOL

>  I know nothing about IrDA, but I try to
>understand. Actually I try to make my laptop and portable phone to
>work together.

Good luck, LOL... Now for me it's pretty simple, but with the current
documentation and the support of this group I think it's hard time for
yourself. Feel free to ask myself in private if you need help becouse the
last revision of the IrDA HOWTO is laughable in my opinion.

> I know it works out of the box using Windows, but
>Windows doesn't satisfy me, Linux does.

Thats' cool, it's your choice! Like it's my choice to learn Linux too. I'm
happy you are happy. :-)))

>Why are you speaking about the fact you don't pay for Linux. This has
>nothing to do with the fact that people use Linux.

For me, partially it have. I like to be correct with license, so I not use
Windows on machines where I not have a valid license. Linux is the second
choice, I not pay for it!!! So I use to put it on the machines I have no
Windows license and I put it on machines of friends that not wanna pay for a
proper OS.

> I do not use Linux
>because it's free, I use it because it gives me a lot of
>satisfaction.

I repeat, it's cool! And, well, it also help in this days have some Linux
skills, also if just few professionals use them.


Regards

Massimo

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