Linux-Misc Digest #820, Volume #27 Wed, 9 May 01 21:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Triple boot (is it possible?) (Paul Lew)
Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux (Paul Lew)
Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips? ("S. Z. Zhou")
Re: Linux market share by distribution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Deja News Reader Software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: inetd (Angry Bob)
C++ Shared libraries on Linux - problem, HELP! (Billy Bob Jameson)
Re: Multi-session ISO9660 (Dave Uhring)
Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux ("muzh")
Red Hat 7.1/2.4.4 'su -' problems and messages oddities ("Christopher C. Stump")
Re: Deja News Reader Software (Robert)
Re: load average (Jean-David Beyer)
XF86config for SONYVAIO PCG-FX140 ("Gao Yuan")
Re: inetd (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: rh7.1 and ppp gnome applet (David Mehringer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Triple boot (is it possible?)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:18:37 GMT
On Wed, 9 May 2001, DeadDuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "leif kremkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> ["Jonathan Lundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] last said:
>> > If possible, I'd like to triple-boot Linux, Windows 98, and Windows
>> > 2000. I have one 20GB hard drive. Can this be done?
>>
>> Yes it can. General plan: Install Win98. Then Win2K. And Linux last. Why
>> that order? Because MS wipes the MBR as it sees fit. Win98 is not aware of
>> Win2k, but Win2k is aware of Win98 so will install a nice option menu for
>> you (I think). Linux needs LILO in the MBR. LILO can boot anybody.
>>
>> Mind your partitioning though.
>>
>> ,,
>> leif
>
> I have this setup running (admittedly on 2 hard disks, but the principle
> should be the same). Leif is correct about the order of loading OSs, but be
> aware of how to set up LILO. For my system, I have only two LILO entries -
> one for Linux partition, and one for Windows. Booting into the Linux option
> does what you'd expect, but for Windows I've always had to boot to the Win98
> partition, which then presents the option to boot Win98 or Win2K. This
> suggests to me that the Win2K has hijacked the startup procedure for Windows
> 98 rather than the MBR itself, since I've installed LILO into the MBR and it
> didn't break the Windows menu.
Yup, win2k even hijacked the boot loader from winnt4 as I have win nt4,
win 2k and linux...
>
> Perhaps someone else knows how to get LILO to recognise all three
> partitions, but I suspect that the Win2K installation simply won't accept an
> attempt to boot directly off its own partition.
>
Go to either www.download.com or www.tucows.com or
ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gvollant/bootpart.htm and get bootpart 2.2.
It is "self-explanatory" on how to add linux or any other os to the
nt boot loader; this method is much easier than creating one's own
"boot sector" and telling the ntloader to load the os as bootpart would
do it. Bootpart is free.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:21:04 GMT
On Wed, 09 May 2001 22:38:41 GMT, Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Scott Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>In the past it was easy to read and write to Win98 from a Linux partition
>>on a dual boot machine. One could mount the windows partition and access
>>it from Linux. With win2k this seems to be much more difficult. Any
>>simple methods to do this? Apparently any attempt at writing to the
>>win2k file system is risky. Any easy way to at least access the win2k
>>files?
>
> Compile your kernel with NTFS support. Like you say, reading is one
> thing, but writing is much more hazardous.
>
> An alternative would be to use FAT32 on your win2k partitions. You
> loose the security and robustness of NTFS of course, but you can then
> read & write to the partitions from Linux. Personally, I use NTFS for
> my Win2k system partition, and then keep all of my data in a FAT32
> partition that can be accessed from both OSes.
>
> Gareth
>
NTFS reading and NTFS reading/writing were 2 separate items for configuration
and believe that NTFS writing has been removed for 2.4.4 as didn't see that
item for configuration.
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From: "S. Z. Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:24:43 +1000
"A. Dueselder" wrote:
> S. Z. Zhou wrote:
>
> > Hi, All:
> >
> > Initially default four desktops are enough for me and my work. But when
> > I start the real work and come into the real world. 8 desktops seems
> > appropriate. Could any one tell me how to add more desktops on KDE?
>
> Of course,
> go to your Control Center which you will find by clicking at the "Start
> Application" button (the K)! Under Look&Feel you will find a tab called
> "Number of Desktops" which should serve you well... ;)
>
> Good luck,
> Arne
>
> --
> The answer is 42!
Thanks, I can choose eight desktops from there.
Cheers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux market share by distribution
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:27:31 GMT
Adriel Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> RH "had" like 75% of the market a while ago. . but I think that
> mandrake is really playing the game of catch up quickly.
This begs the questions of:
a) How you measure what the "market" is, and
b) How you measure "sales" in that market.
_So_ many Linux installs come out of things other than people buying
boxed sets from RHAT and such that coming up with estimates is really
difficult.
--
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http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/resume.html
"Although Unix is more reliable, NT may become more reliable with
time" -- Ron Redman, deputy technical director of the Fleet
Introduction Division of the Aegis Program Executive Office, US Navy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Deja News Reader Software
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:27:31 GMT
Youngert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a news reader software that can read and post on the
> dejanews.com?
The point of dejanews.com is to provide a _web_ interface to Usenet.
You use a _web browser_ to read and post there. An NNTP client would
be used to connect an NNTP server, which dejanews.com is not.
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca")
http://vip.hyperusa.com/~cbbrowne/resume.html
Those who do not learn from history, loop.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:27:32 GMT
"S. Z. Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Initially default four desktops are enough for me and my work. But
> when I start the real work and come into the real world. 8 desktops
> seems appropriate. Could any one tell me how to add more desktops on
> KDE?
This depends on what window manager you're using, as this is something
controlled by the window manager, not by KDE.
See the documentation for your favorite window manager.
--
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Ian Malcolm: "God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God
creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs." Ellie Sattler:
"Dinosaurs...eat man. Woman inherits the Earth." -Jurassic Park
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: 9 May 2001 23:33:06 GMT
What would you like to read? [comp.os.linux.setup or *?]
This is a Norman Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scroll! it says:
> I'm using Linux Mandrake 8.0. But I can't seem to be able to find inetd on
> the distribution CDs. All I see is xinetd. Has inetd being removed? Where
> can I find inetd? I search www.rpmfind.net, and there seems to be one for
> RedHat 6.2.
xinetd replaces inetd because inetd is crappy.
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
You've never eaten a packing peanut?
--Nick Black
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From: Billy Bob Jameson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: C++ Shared libraries on Linux - problem, HELP!
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:52:37 GMT
Hi.
For some time now I am struggling to understand what's wrong with my way
of building a shared library. Got a lot of answers from some ppl but
still.
Building a shared lib on UNIX is apparently a no-brainer. However, all
my attempts end with "Segmentation fault" immediately after launching
the test program that uses the shared library. So far I found out it's
not because I use namespaces.
More precisely, gdb displays just:
(gdb) run
Starting program: /work/src/testbin/testbin/.libs/testbin
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x4000c1b6 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4000c1b6 in ?? ()
#1 0x40002855 in ?? ()
#2 0x4001048f in ?? ()
#3 0x40002382 in ?? ()
#4 0x400020ae in ?? ()
(gdb)
This is all I get.
If there is anyone here willing to get my sources (two kdevelop
projects) compile them, run them and tell me then where I was wrong,
he/she'll have my eternal gratitude.
Additional info:
RH 7.0 system upgraded from rpms to glibc 2.2.10
TIA
BB
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multi-session ISO9660
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:54:17 -0500
Peet Grobler wrote:
> Does Linux support multi-session cd writing?
>
> If so, how'd I go about to do it? Say, e.g., I create a 50MB file every
> day wich I want backed up to another session on the disk.
>
> Any response will be appreciated.
> Peet
>
>
>
This one is for FreeBSD, but should work with Linux, too. The utilities in
both are essentially the same.
http://www.freebsddiary.org/cdrecord-multi.php
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:25:02 +1200
I think rw supposrt for NTFS is still there -- but only if you answer yes
to prompt for experimental features early on in kernel configuration.
I've never tried writing to an NTFS partition myself -- I believe it is
dangerous.
> NTFS reading and NTFS reading/writing were 2 separate items for
> configuration and believe that NTFS writing has been removed for 2.4.4
> as didn't see that item for configuration.
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: "Christopher C. Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 7.1/2.4.4 'su -' problems and messages oddities
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:36:52 -0500
Greetings fellow Linux heads,
I recently hooked-up a fresh install of Red Hat 7.1 and I am now running it
with a newly rolled 2.4.4
kernel. All is good except for the following error messages and a weird
problem I am having with
the 'su -' command. If anyone can shed some light on these problems, I would
very much
appreciate your input.
1.Command 'su -' does not work if it is issued after I already 'su'ed from
user to root. The command
line just freezes, and the process gets stuck in memory even after I kill
the terminal. Is this a
problem with sudo? pam? 'su -' works fine if I issue it as a regular user.
2. Oddities found in /var/log/messages:
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module nls_iso8859-1
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module nls_iso8859-1
# I know "nls" means "national language support" and that
# this message is no big deal (I encountered it, and lived
# with it trouble-free with previous installs of Red Hat),
# but what can stop modprobe from looking for this module?
# Can commands 'chkconfig' and/or 'modprobe' fix
# this?
ifup: Determining IP information for eth0...
pumpd[360]: starting at (uptime 0 days, 0:00:23) Mon May 7 13:52:50 2001
/etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no drivers for USB product 4e6/101/200
ifup: Operation failed.
ifup: done.
network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded
# What fails? My cable internet connection works fine and I
# do not seem to be having trouble with eth0
gconfd (stump-979): starting (version 1.0.0), pid 979 user 'stump'
gconfd (stump-979): No configuration files found, trying to use the default
config source `xml:readwrite:/home/stump/.gconf'
gconfd (stump-979): Initializing XML backend module
gconfd (stump-979): Directory/file permissions for XML source at root
/home/stump/.gconf are: 700/600
gconfd (stump-979): Failed to notify listener 3607101444, removing:
IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
gconfd (stump-979): Failed to notify listener 3573547010, removing:
IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
# This is just strange, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with Nautilus (I'm
running Ximian Gnome 1.4). I've seen
# other posts concerning this error but I never found an explanation.
Nautilus runs find, but I'm afraid this
# can be problematic.
Once again, any insight would be appreciated!
Thank you for your time and in advance for your reply.
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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deja News Reader Software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:34:53 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Youngert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Is there a news reader software that can read and post on the
>> dejanews.com?
>
> The point of dejanews.com is to provide a _web_ interface to Usenet.
> You use a _web browser_ to read and post there. An NNTP client would
> be used to connect an NNTP server, which dejanews.com is not.
Last time I checked you can't post at Deja via web based e-mail, although
it was in the plans for the future as Google gets it more organized.
(made this mistake myself in a post a while back)
Try pubnews.netcom.net.uk : I am posting this via their server with KNode.
all the best,
Robert
--
remove spamfree when replying
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:54:46 -0400
David Efflandt wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 May 2001 17:00:44 GMT, Tom Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I remember correctly, it is the average number of proccesses
> > waiting in run queue (i.e, waiting to get CPU time). The numbers
> > show the average for 1, 5, and fifteen minutes. The higher the
> > numbers, the more loaded you system is.
> >
> > Tom Romeo
>
> Typically for a single processor machine you should not see it go over
> 1.00 for any period of time, but it can comfortable run at 1.00 if
> background processes are set for lower priority (man nice). For example
> when I run SETI@home, it runs load ave 1.00 consuming 100% of available
> cpu time, but it runs nice 19 (lowest priority) so I don't even notice it.
>
> If you see it beyond your number of cpu's and continuously rising, you
> probably have a broken process in a race condition which can eventually
> choke your box. I have seen that when testing a USB CD-RW which is not
> quite supported and the runaway process does not respond to kill (time to
> reboot).
>
Mine normally runs a bit higher than 2 (the number of CPUs) when I am
not doing much, but I do not get at all concerned unless it exceeds 4,
because 2 of those are just two instances of setiathome that run at
nice level 19, so they stay out of my way. (I have enough memory.)
I can easily get it over 4 for extended periods of time, and sometimes
over 5 or 6 for a while when I run the DB2 DBMS and set it into
parallel processing mode. DB2 then consumes slightly over two
processors (though I have only two, but it runs more than two
processes at once, not including the client). So I have those and the
two setiathomes. If I import a large .tsv file into a spreadsheet
program, it easily goes over 4 for a while.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 8:45pm up 8 days, 11:56, 3 users, load average: 2.03, 2.05, 2.07
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From: "Gao Yuan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XF86config for SONYVAIO PCG-FX140
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:01:34 -0700
Hello!
Can any body tell me what parameters and configuration that I should use for
my SONY VAIO PCG-FX140 laptop?
Thanks
Yuan
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:56:03 -0400
Angry Bob wrote:
>
> What would you like to read? [comp.os.linux.setup or *?]
> This is a Norman Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scroll! it says:
> > I'm using Linux Mandrake 8.0. But I can't seem to be able to find inetd on
> > the distribution CDs. All I see is xinetd. Has inetd being removed? Where
> > can I find inetd? I search www.rpmfind.net, and there seems to be one for
> > RedHat 6.2.
>
> xinetd replaces inetd because inetd is crappy.
>
Would you explain what is crappy about inetd, and how xinetd has fixed
it?
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 8:55pm up 8 days, 12:06, 3 users, load average: 2.09, 2.07, 2.07
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From: David Mehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh7.1 and ppp gnome applet
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:06:07 -0500
This seems to be a problem with the gnome-applet package that ships with RH
7.1; my gweather applet wouldn't work either. I downgraded to the version
that ships with 7.0 and everything works again.
Dave
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Jeff S wrote:
> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:03:32 -0600
> From: Jeff S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> Subject: Re: rh7.1 and ppp gnome applet
>
> I was seeing exactly the same problem with rp3, but since I was feeling
> lazy, I didn't attempt to troubleshoot it; rather, I'm using kppp
> instead-works great though you have to use your root password to run it.
>
> Jeff S
>
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David
> Mehringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I just installed RH7.1 and am having problems with the RH gnome ppp
> > dialup connection applet. I can connect OK, but the applet claims I am
> > not connected (which means that I cannot disconnect using it). Also,
> > the bandwidth usage graph remains blank. No problems like this with the
> > version of this applet that shipped with 7.0; I thought that was great.
> > Anyone having similar problems? Anyone have a solution? Thanx.
> >
>
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