Then, it would probably be a good idea to analyze if it's worth having
two global jams per cycle - one for packaging/design stuff, and other
one for docs/translations.

On 07/31/2014 10:22 PM, Michael Hall wrote:
> 
> On 07/31/2014 11:16 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:39 PM, José Antonio Rey <j...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> I would be for doing it on the week of the 4th September. That way, if
>>> someone cannot finish something (as an example, in the documentation),
>>> they will have more time to finish. I am saying this because most of the
>>> contributions are to the docs, and the dates you are proposing are just
>>> one week before doc freeze. Any other ideas?
>>
>> I think the proposed dates are alright, and September 5-7 would be ok
>> too (Labor day in US is Sept 1, so no conflict there), but I'd really
>> rather see these Jams planned further ahead in general (too late for
>> this cycle). Daniel's proposed date is after both Feature and UI
>> Freeze, making packaging jams and anything related to design not very
>> useful if someone wants to contribute to this release - and having a
>> package sit in a queue until the next release opens is really no fun.
>> Doing it earlier in the cycle would still allow for great Testing and
>> Bug jams, and squeeze packaging back in.
>>
> 
> We went back and forth on this. Having the jam earlier allows bug fixes
> and package updates, but it doesn't make sense for translations or even
> a lot of docs (screenshots) if it's before UI Freeze. There are some
> things that must be done earlier in the cycle, and some that must be
> done later, so no single date would allow for everything.
> 
>> While the Docs team does appreciate having the Jam before freeze this
>> time (thank you!), it does mean they only have a week to review the
>> merge proposals before freeze, putting a bit of pressure on reviewing
>> these in addition to any other last minute things that need to be
>> (re)written.
>>
> 
> 
> Michael Hall
> mhall...@ubuntu.com
> 

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