On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
> > > problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of
> > > things.
> >
> > Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that.
> >
>
> My favourite solution in business when you are faced with the problem
> of people not wanting you to implement something or not being sure
> about it and wanting a period of consideration is as follows ...
>
> fuck it, just do it
>
> (who says i couldn't work for nike)
>
> I'd suggest that it is a reasonable working assumption that both
> NetThink, Iterative and other Perl Consultancies/Trainers want to
> make money. I'd also state the assumption that if proposed to the
> wider Perl community - Perl certification would go back into
> argument state, so I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we
> form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will
> sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels).
>
> This process _has_ to be open and should have a deadline. If we
> can get something that helps london / south england and/or the UK
> then we can achieve something.
>
> I'd advise getting some non-trainers involved as well, perhaps
> Blackstar and other Perl businesses? (their hook will be that
> they become partners and get logo placement in whatever pseudo
> forum/organisation does this)
>
> I realise this action and the attitude may not be popular on
> the wider stage, but ho hum.
>
> Thoughts? If Simon (NetThink), Piers/Leon (Iterative), Dave Cross
> (with his london.pm hat on) and a couple of companies that use
> Perl say this is a good idea, i think we can do this.
>

Strangely I was talking wiv da boss this morning about the training issues
wrt perl in our department ... I might find myself doing some training in
the near future . :)

/J\

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