Comments below.
G. Matthew Rice wrote:
Hi guys,
Someone commented last week that we should be testing more than just apt-get
for the deb side of the exam.
My questions on that side are, should we:
1. test awareness of the apt-* tool set?
No.
2. test ability to use the apt-* tool set?
No.
3. dump dselect? :)
Probably.
On the RPM side, we aren't testing an equivalent to apt-get. Should we add
in yum (or something else)?
No.
Reasons for the above are simple. apt-* (apt-get, aptitude, etc.) and
yum are higher level tools built on lower level tools. apt-* from dpkg
and yum from rpm. emerge/portage is the similar in being a higher level
utility versus the "make process" (which I hope most on this list know
what I am talking about; especially the Gentoo sadists like myself ;-) ).
If one were to start diverging from the basic core of what the LPI exams
are trying to test, one will need to start including quite a few across
the board package management utilities. CLI and GUI
variants/derivatives included as well.
But what does this accomplish for the 3-6 questions in the one portion
of the LPI-101 (IIRC) section in package management and installation?
More questions to the pool is one answer. More work for the exam
developer types. And more material for the trainers and students to go
over.
Someone (Bryan?) also commented that the yum level could be justified in
moving to LPIC-2? Does anyone else feel this way? That would lead me to
think that apt-get should be moved to LPIC-2, as well. I know. The
horror. I use apt-get 50-100 times for every once that I use dpkg.
apt-get and yum are again "high level utilities" based on lower level
ones once again. To move them to LPIC-2 would be then moving the dpkg
and rpm aspects as well since in the end...these are tools used for
package management of a system. This itself has been a requisite for
LPI-101 since...well, as long as I can recall (2001 or so).
Matt, your comment about using apt-get 50-100 times a day should also
consider that in fact, you are using apt-get which calls dpkg the same
50-100 times a day too. Do you see the actual command running? Of
course not, it is kept at a higher level. Granted, if you were to run
dpkg, apt-get, or aptitude via CLI on the same package doing the same
function (e.g., install or remove/purge), the CLI output is
actually...the same.
Just some $0.02 from an old lurker in the peanut gallery.
Sincerely,
Crawford Rainwater
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